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*sigh* still have cyano...help!

Started by RoxyDog, October 14, 2007, 12:18:46 PM

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Tynan Rasmus

Quote from: groan on October 14, 2007, 01:29:07 PM
OH! and someone recently told me about a little known cure...Sugar.
I beleive he said Pat told him about it. ask pat about using sugar for cyano.
This person, who's name is escaping me..i just bought my leather from him, had a bad cyano problem adn tried everythign. pat told him about the sugar and it was gone within a week (i think) and hasnt returned in months.

Yep, that would have been me, and it worked wonders for sure! It was about 2 weeks before it was completely gone, started noticably going in the first week.

RoxyDog

ya, my actinics are only a month or so old. 
Tanks: salty nano cube, working on a fresh 125

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Severum

What is the science behind dosing sugar (or vodka)? The bacteria consumes it and grows rapidly and suffocates the cyano?
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Shrimpy

Quote from: Severum on October 15, 2007, 02:54:15 PM
What is the science behind dosing sugar (or vodka)? The bacteria consumes it and grows rapidly and suffocates the cyano?

yeah kind of, from what I understand the sugar makes the bacteria grow and then the bacteria consumes the nitrates and whatever else the cyano is feeding on. There's lots of info on it elsewhere, but that is the jist of it. Lots of people report a "bacteria bloom" where your tank will get cloudy, but this lasts only a short time. Also reported is very thick and disgusting skimmate and phrases like "My skimmer is going nuts!" lol I never noticed any skimmate difference, but I did have the cloudy tank which lasted a day or two. :)

gvv

After reading this thread and others in the RC, I decided to try yesterday on my office tank - I have pretty much cyano in the refuge section and not in the main one. Love to experiment...
Today my water looks like milk. Cyano is still fine (if you may say so). According to what I read, this sometimes happens. It may affect SPS, but I have only softies there so, we will see.

Regards

speckledmind

Quote from: Shrimpy on October 14, 2007, 02:14:21 PM
The recommended dosage is 1 teaspoon sugar for every 100 gallons on a daily basis.  :P

Interesting thread, guess what just appeared in my tank, yep, Cyano  :o

If I crank up the flow anymore in my tank, the sand will go flying everywhere, so I guess I will follow suit with this sugar treat and see what happens.

RoxyDog

good luck!  my cyano is lessened but not gone with dose #2 (which I increased a bit).  my water has stayed clear so far.  I *must* have enough flow in the tank with the 3 powerheads, so I hope it won't come back!
Tanks: salty nano cube, working on a fresh 125

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Alchemist

Are you sure the sugar doesn't just cause a bacterial bloom which then competes with the cyano for nutrients.  The bacterial bloom would be your milky water.

Vallely4

Do alotta new tanks gets cyano?  :o
I dont have alot of flow in my tank.... but dont see any sign yet of red cyano algae

Is it just more common with sand beds, mines a barebottom -im curious

Alchemist

Quote from: Vallely4 on October 16, 2007, 10:08:46 PM
Do alotta new tanks gets cyano?  :o
I dont have alot of flow in my tank.... but dont see any sign yet of red cyano algae

Is it just more common with sand beds, mines a barebottom -im curious


Your tank is relatively new.....you'll get some soon.

speckledmind

Quote from: Alchemist on October 16, 2007, 09:13:27 PM
Are you sure the sugar doesn't just cause a bacterial bloom which then competes with the cyano for nutrients.  The bacterial bloom would be your milky water.
I'm kind of leaning toward this possibility right now.

I will be doing some more research on Cyano, and see what I can come up with, in other words, I will research it to death to find the In's and outs lol

I know one thing.
The lack of flow / water movement was mentioned as being a possible cause, I can eliminate this possibility in my tank.

Julie


Shrimpy

Quote from: speckledmind on October 17, 2007, 06:20:12 AM
I know one thing.
The lack of flow / water movement was mentioned as being a possible cause, I can eliminate this possibility in my tank.


I found that lack of flow is what caused it in my nano. Increasing the flow won't get rid of it, but it will help keep it from returning. :)

RoxyDog

Quote from: Shrimpy on October 17, 2007, 08:00:57 AM
I found that lack of flow is what caused it in my nano. Increasing the flow won't get rid of it, but it will help keep it from returning. :)

that's good to know.  a couple of my corals seem to be unhappy, but nothing too bad.
Tanks: salty nano cube, working on a fresh 125

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speckledmind

WoW  :o
Cyano sure grows fast  >:(
When I posted yesterday, it was the size of a Toony, I took a break from work to feed my fish a couple of minutes ago, and it's now the size of $5 paper money  :-\

Time for the second dose of Sugar I guess.

RoxyDog

well, it's gone I think?   ???  some of my corals are NOT happy though, so time for a water change today or tomorrow, and no more sugar.  let's see if the cyano just comes right back or not.
Tanks: salty nano cube, working on a fresh 125

Life is too short to wake up with regrets.  So love the people who treat you right.  Forget about the one's who don't.  Believe everything happens for a reason.  If you get a second chance, grab it with both hands.  If it changes your life, let it.  Nobody said life would be easy, they just promised it would be worth it.

gvv

Day 3:
Water crystal clear, corals look like nothing happen, cyano still there as if I didn't do anything...
Continue dosing.

SuperT

I'm curious about something....are any of you skimming (because technically the idea is to cause a bacterial bloom that will consume the excess protein (starving the cyno) and then you skim off that extra protein before it resettles in the tank)?

Terry

Shrimpy

Quote from: SuperT on October 18, 2007, 11:59:35 AM
I'm curious about something....are any of you skimming (because technically the idea is to cause a bacterial bloom that will consume the excess protein (starving the cyno) and then you skim off that extra protein before it resettles in the tank)?

Terry

I was thinking the same thing. From what I've read I think you need a skimmer for this to work.  ???

RoxyDog

no skimmer here...I assumed a water change would take out the extra gunk?
Tanks: salty nano cube, working on a fresh 125

Life is too short to wake up with regrets.  So love the people who treat you right.  Forget about the one's who don't.  Believe everything happens for a reason.  If you get a second chance, grab it with both hands.  If it changes your life, let it.  Nobody said life would be easy, they just promised it would be worth it.