*sigh* still have cyano...help!

[sniggir]

gotta love flat worms!!!!!!!!!!! NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

[redbelly]

As for whats next? Id say manging algal growth like bubble, hair, briopsis and Coraline. Oh and stuff like flatworms that tend to creep up on you.

Bryopsis and flat worms are easy fixes but a real pain!

[speckledmind]

A little update on my Cyano problem.

I was running 3 Powerheads ( I had cut back two because I had to much flow ), but reverted to my initial set up of 5 Powerheads, one on each top corner of the tank, and an extra one at the back of the tank to pick up the dead water from the bottom back, and circulate it.

Here is what I have noticed so far :
- I have a lot of flow, yep, lots of it lol
- The Cyano is pretty much being blasted off the rock where is was holding on.
- I do have some substrate moving around, but no Cyano on it lol

I'm hoping that the Cyano won't simply move to another area.

First Pict shows my initial set up as it was planned, and before I removed the two front Powerheads, the second Pict shpws the two Powerheads back in place.
Flow I now have 

PS : I'm not sure if the Shrimps are holding onto the glass, or there being kept there by the increase flow 
Just kidding.

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[speckledmind]

just saw Marinescape advertise the Sure Flow 1600 Maxi-Jet Upgrade Kit $21.99, it looks like the old MJ-Mod, but it's way simpler / cheaper ( Plug and Play would be more accurate ), so I'm thinking of picking one ( or two ) up after the week end, and giving those a try 

I got this off Google / The Sure Flow 1600 upgrade kits includes:
1 - Shroud cap
1 - Propeller/magnet assembly
1 - Full rotation bracket for Sure Grip magnet holder or suction cup bracket
Works with Maxi-Jet 400, 600, 900, and 1200 pumps.
Pump and Sure Grip magent holder not included.
The second / bottom Pict, shows what is included in the kit.

Pict's to boot.

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[Vallely4]

Is that an Aquaclear Skilter I see speckledmind?  If so do they work well?   (How much?)

Are those powerheads points in all one direction, no wait.... Its two you've got  pointed upwards, and the other two flowing counter clockward?  (looks like it creates good water agitation if so)

Love your rockwork anyway, beautiful purples...
Hope the cyano stays clear of it

[kennyman]

I like that aftermarket thing and I think it s very relevent this  cyano thread. It looks like it will really disperse the flow and that is the what I have been trying to get across with my comments about moving all the water around.

To get an idea about how much flow is in a diffuse pattern vs a jet it would take 7-8 MJ400's to get the flow rate out of a single seio820. The MJ's look like there is a lot of flow because of the nozzle but they actually don't move much water outside of that jetstream. I think it's Tunzi's site that has a great explanation of this, but with the way their site works I cant link to it directly anyway. But it was great read if I remember right.

I have a MJ400 here that was going to be used for a seahorse tank and I am very interested in this aftermarket piece Dennis posted to enhance its flowpattern. Thanks for the tip 

[speckledmind]

Is that an Aquaclear ...
Are those powerheads points in all one direction...

Hi Val,
I'm using an Aquaclear top skimmer attachment, hooked onto an Aquaclear 70.
My powerheads are not all pointed in the same direction, the Pict only shows where they sit when I did the dry fit of the equipment.
You can see all the details if you follow this link http://ovas.ca/index.php?topic=17539.0

I like that aftermarket thing and I think it s very relevent this  cyano thread.

Yes it is, flow is a key factor in a reef tank, the big question I have been asking myself though, is how much flow does one really need, before it's to much flow ?
I'm not into keeping SPS, So !
Before this Cyano problem, I was doing very well 
I don't want to thread jack, but rather talk flow in thinking about the Cyano.
That being said.
I'm not convinced on the hydor koralia powerhead power / performance / bulkiness, I stuck my hand in front a the large model to check out the flow ( unit 4 I think is the largest ), and in my opinion ( and it's only an opinion ), it does not move that much water, and certainly not what it claims to, I do like the disperse affect though, so in thinking / reverting back to the MJ-Mods, I really want to see these new Sure Flow 1600 kits. I remember testing out an MJ-Mod for flow, and it pushed way more water in a dispersed pattern than the hydor koralia.

[Julie]

Need to tackle the source. 
Cyano isn't that bad, everyone has their algae problems, it's just ugly.

[RoxyDog]

yeah, the hydors...I dunno.  I bought a #2 and it still seems to not push what it says.  and I've not compared it to a MJ mod.  seems like it only moves water around 1/2 the tank, I know it's dispersed flow, but shouldn't 600gph in a 24gal do the whole tank?     my cyano is completely gone with the sugar dosing, we'll see if two AC PHs on one side and a hydor on the other keeps it @ bay.

[artw]

I had a bit of cyano the other day, I just removed it all with an airline tubing syphon..  we'll see if it comes back.
I started dosing calcium so we'll see what happens in that respect to the cyano.

[gvv]

Cyano isn't that bad, everyone has their algae problems, it's just ugly.

M-m-m... Don't agree. It can kill SPS'esif it will cover them. And not only SPS - I remember the time I had a problem when it started covering plate coral...
I can leave with it in sump/refuge, but not in the main tank.

Regards

[RoxyDog]

yep, it's back.    

just on the front sand bed, no where else on the sand or rocks.  the weird part is the zoas down there...you can see by their skirts that there's flow. even the cyano sways in the current.    

so, it appears there's flow, I use r/o water, the food I feed is NLS flake (could this be contributing via phosphates?) or raw shrimp about every second day. 

what to do now?  I can live with it, it's not that bad again, but I'd still like to conquer it if possible!  grr.

[kennyman]

there were some checkered Nerites at BA's last week. I got a couple for my tank to help out with the algae now that my Angel is gone. According to some Ecology type sites these guys live on a diet of specific types of algae including Cyano and diatoms.

[RoxyDog]

checkered nerites eh?  which BA?

[kennyman]

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=1472

I got the checkered ones at Innis. Every little bit helps   

I had some of these in my nano and they did good work, but the water quality was poor and I lost them and my emerald crab before I made the move to my existing tank.