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Aquarist Forums => Saltwater General Discussions => Topic started by: 10gnano on May 09, 2010, 07:51:21 PM

Title: pulsing xenia
Post by: 10gnano on May 09, 2010, 07:51:21 PM
Hey guys
I just bought a pulsating xenia, It went into the tank yesterday. but it is not pulsating? any ideas?
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: omarshabaz on May 09, 2010, 08:06:11 PM
Hi, the most common causes of Xenia not pulsing is PH. What are your tank specs?
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: JetJumper on May 09, 2010, 08:09:40 PM
I put some in my tank.  Flow was my issue.  Too much flow and it will not Pulse either.
The instant I turned off all the pumps it started to pulse for me.  Now its happy.  Been in there a week.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: RoxyDog on May 09, 2010, 09:26:54 PM
I think it pulses more under higher light too (if I am remembering what Pat told me correctly...Pat?).  How's your light?
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: JetJumper on May 09, 2010, 09:43:28 PM
Quote from: RoxyDog on May 09, 2010, 09:26:54 PM
I think it pulses more under higher light too (if I am remembering what Pat told me correctly...Pat?).  How's your light?

Less light will cause it to grow long stems trying to reach the light.  More light and it will be a dense little guy.  I am doing testing with the LED's I got for my tank, its about 28 Inches away from them.  Lets see what happens!
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: Vincenzo. on May 09, 2010, 11:12:13 PM
believe it or not...xenia needs almost flawless water conditions..
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: groupie02 on May 10, 2010, 08:42:25 PM
well, I've read that it grows pretty much anywhere including where the sewer lines dumped into the sea near a city... I have a hard time believing that would be near perfect conditions.

Oh well, now I'm not sure who to believe.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: Hookup on May 10, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
xenia is used in sumps as a nutrient export system.  You "export" nutrient by selling frags.

I do not know much about xenia, but I too have heard it likes the dirty stuff.... and with ULNS they often melt/die right away.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: kole18 on May 10, 2010, 11:16:47 PM
If you have tons of phostpate in your water for sure that xenia would do great , like rays tank never been to his place yet at his main tank full of pompom xenia lol
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: White Lightning on May 11, 2010, 12:58:26 AM
I have had xenia on a couple of different occasions and it never really took off for me. When I asked the question why it was slowly melting....the response I received from several people was..." your water is probably too clean, xenia like dirty water."
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: bitterman on May 11, 2010, 08:19:46 AM
I put a piece of Xenia in my sons tank. It only has  the 12 G Eclipse light on it and that is really no light. But it is supplemented by the south and east facing windows. It pulses when it comes out, but not that fast. the tank is going to get LED's when the budget allows. Its bit yellow in color right now also as a result.

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Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: Benja on May 11, 2010, 08:30:23 AM
I heard it flourishes from an abundance of phosphates.

I have noticed lately that the Pulsing Xenia colony in my sump less tank has been growing like mad.  coincidentally, so has the deterius and algae.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: holachicka on May 11, 2010, 09:34:28 AM
I tend to agree with the "dirty" water theory. I know first hand of a tank with pompoms it in and it spead like crazy! Water quality was terrible, tank neglected (due to unexpected travel) and the pompoms were just chillin' all over the front of the glass and covering about 1/3 of the LR.

As much as I LOVE pompoms, they do spread just a little too much for my liking but then again, it's a great fraggin' opportunity :)
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: Bob P on May 11, 2010, 09:47:31 AM
Lower water quality, lower light for sure.
Whither in my 75 gal, but do great in my 24 gal nano
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: 10gnano on May 11, 2010, 10:11:06 AM
Is it ever funny on how many different opinions/experiences people have with corals. I know a guy that never touches his tank, left for college and had the lights turned off and when he came back like 2 months later his tank corals/mushrooms had grown and multiplied as if they were on steroids.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: Vincenzo. on May 11, 2010, 03:29:21 PM
Its called adaptation..so of coarse they do good..

Take a negelcted tank....buy brand new xenia from a 'good' tank.....then add them to the neglected tank....melt in 24hrs...

Over time, things adapt.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: Bob P on May 12, 2010, 12:18:53 PM
Thats odd, as I stated, mine melted in my good tank and
came back to life in the dirty tank.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: beertech on May 12, 2010, 01:48:04 PM
It's far too vague to just say "dirty " tank or "pristine " water. You really have to address the requirements of the coral, as well as measuring exactly what is going on in each individual tank. Some factors are phosphates, iodine, available nutrients, lighting, flow, alkalinity, etc.. etc.... Sometimes, like in the case of Xenia, it's easier to just try it and see what happens in your particular tank.   :)
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: mikerobart on May 12, 2010, 02:09:14 PM
In my case I will say my xenia did best in moderate water quality. When the tank was pristine it was not growing very quickly. When my husbandry was merely adequate it was growing like crazy.  When I got real lazy for a bit it melted faster than anything.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: OttawaReefer on May 12, 2010, 02:13:52 PM
you may regret putting it in there.  The stuff can grow quickly.  I put it high in my tank so it gets moderate flow and lots of light.  About once a month I have to go at it with a razor blade to keep it under control......then you can also find little bits of it popping up here and there as well.   

It can be a lot like star polyps if you aren't careful.
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: 10gnano on May 13, 2010, 08:54:41 AM
hes pulsing really well now
I moved it up to the top of the tank so that it would not spread
Title: Re: pulsing xenia
Post by: SeahorseGuyetGal on May 13, 2010, 02:13:40 PM
I got a small rock with pulsing Xenia as my "first" coral some time ago.  I have/had it in a 12 gal nano and it basically took over the tank.  Water conditions were pristine (b/c of the horses) but feedings were heavy.  Not that the Xenia munch mysis, but the debate over water conditions IS intriguing.  I've heard of total meltdowns.  Based on my experience, low-med water flow is best for it.  PH around 8 - 8.2 is also imp and water hardness as well (seems sensitive).  I also noticed that once when I went on vacation, the salinity went up to 1.028.  Boy did it spread!  Also, if you feed your tank something like reefroids or other coral foods, they should spread.  I've had to had to slice a dice a lot of it as it continuously grows like a weed in both my tanks. 

I know this isn't the trading forum but if things don't work out, I'd be happy to supply you with a little colony in trade for something.

Good luck!