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Aquarist Forums => Freshwater General Discussions => Plants => Topic started by: NjOyRiD on March 29, 2005, 11:27:41 AM

Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on March 29, 2005, 11:27:41 AM
what is the thing i have to put in the water to put my nitrate higher? my nitrate is always zero :(
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Aiglos on March 29, 2005, 11:47:02 AM
You want a low nitrate.  The lower the nitrate the better, assuming you have a cycled tank, which I assume you do, you probally do alot of water changes.
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on March 29, 2005, 11:51:50 AM
its a planted tank I need like 25 ppm  ;)
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Ron on March 29, 2005, 11:32:19 PM
Most of us use potassium nitrate, KNO3. You can get it at Homegrown Hydroponics on, I believe, Antares Drive, just south of Hunt Club. They are a good source for all the other nutrients you might need as well - they stock all the ingredients for mixing PMDD.

Best,   Ron
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on March 30, 2005, 05:35:32 AM
ok thanx this is what I was looking for :)
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: dannypd on March 30, 2005, 10:44:23 AM
Quote from: RonMost of us use potassium nitrate, KNO3. You can get it at Homegrown Hydroponics on, I believe, Antares Drive, just south of Hunt Club. They are a good source for all the other nutrients you might need as well - they stock all the ingredients for mixing PMDD.

Best,   Ron

ORIGINAL POST:
I had mentioned an alternative mix, but I realized this contained ammonia.

However, I didn't realize the implication with the above quote, when I added:
Ignore that...most outdoor ferts have ammonias...

Please excuse my ignorance, I did not mean ANY offence to Ron.  I was simply fixing MY post and correcting MY mistake I had made.
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: slickshooter on March 30, 2005, 12:22:45 PM
I know nothing about planted tanks but.... Wouldn't it be logical to just let your tank get a little "dirty" and let the levels rise naturally as opposed to throwing chemicals in?
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Ron on March 30, 2005, 01:12:58 PM
When we grow plants in our aquariums under intense light with CO2 supplementation, the nutrient by-products from feeding the fish often are not sufficient to meet the needs of the plants, so we  add macronutrients like nitrate and phosphate, in addition to micronutrients. Failing to do so will lead to various algae problems.

As for dannypd's advice to "ignore" my post, may I suggest he do a little more research before advising others. I didn't suggest anybody add Miracle Grow to their tanks :) The chemicals I'm referring to are just what they are labelled as, in this case,  potassium nitrate, or KNO3.

For lots of info on planted aquariums, check out the Aquatic Plants Digest at

http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plants/index.php

Best regards,
                      Ron
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Marc on March 30, 2005, 01:23:11 PM
Quote from: dannypd
Quote from: RonMost of us use potassium nitrate, KNO3. You can get it at Homegrown Hydroponics on, I believe, Antares Drive, just south of Hunt Club. They are a good source for all the other nutrients you might need as well - they stock all the ingredients for mixing PMDD.

Best,   Ron

Ignore that...most outdoor ferts have ammonias...

Danny, that was rude.  Ron knows what he's talking about.  Ron sells  a large number of plants at OVAS auctions and has for years.  All plants that he has grown in his tanks.

Marc
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on March 30, 2005, 04:03:30 PM
Is that right Ron, you sell some plants?
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Ron on March 30, 2005, 06:32:46 PM
It's true - I try to make to as many meetings as I can, and never come without some plants to put in the mini-auction. Hope you can make it to a meeting.

Best,

        Ron
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on March 30, 2005, 07:28:18 PM
i need hairgrass, congo anubias and twisted valis, cant find anywhere :(
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: saporis on March 30, 2005, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Marc
Quote from: dannypd
Quote from: RonMost of us use potassium nitrate, KNO3. You can get it at Homegrown Hydroponics on, I believe, Antares Drive, just south of Hunt Club. They are a good source for all the other nutrients you might need as well - they stock all the ingredients for mixing PMDD.

Best,   Ron

Ignore that...most outdoor ferts have ammonias...

Danny, that was rude.  Ron knows what he's talking about.  Ron sells  a large number of plants at OVAS auctions and has for years.  All plants that he has grown in his tanks.

Marc


OHH!@!!!

I meant MY post!!

I said something about miracle grow, but I , *I* was mistaken

(this is dannypd on my other computer)
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: dannypd on March 30, 2005, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: saporis
OHH!!!!

I meant MY post!!

I said something about miracle grow, but I , *I* was mistaken

(this is dannypd on my other computer)


Fixed..   See the modified message!

I did not mean to be rude, again, I am sorry.
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on March 30, 2005, 10:08:59 PM
ca va etre correct :)
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: dannypd on March 30, 2005, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: RonAs for dannypd's advice to "ignore" my post, may I suggest he do a little more research before advising others. I didn't suggest anybody add Miracle Grow to their tanks :) The chemicals I'm referring to are just what they are labelled as, in this case,  potassium nitrate, or KNO3.
                      Ron

Ironically, that's one of the items  I suggested...you're good!
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Marc on March 30, 2005, 10:19:25 PM
Quote from: dannypd
Quote from: saporis
OHH!!!!

I meant MY post!!

I said something about miracle grow, but I , *I* was mistaken

(this is dannypd on my other computer)


Fixed..   See the modified message!

I did not mean to be rude, again, I am sorry.

Cool.  Your edited message didn't come across the way you intended.   Thanks for the explanation.

Marc
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Ron on March 31, 2005, 05:44:24 AM
Thanks for clearing things up Danny; no offence taken :)

Cheers,

           Ron
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: BigDaddy on March 31, 2005, 07:45:12 AM
Quote from: NjOyRiDits a planted tank I need like 25 ppm  ;)

PS - 25ppm of nitrate is NOT what you need.  You need to maintain between 5 and 10ppm of nitrate.

25ppm is the optimal concentration of CO2.
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on April 11, 2005, 10:55:41 PM
ok thanx big daddy :) i thought it was 25 ppm
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Iceman on April 13, 2005, 02:46:02 PM
My nitrate level is pretty much zero as well. Is this why I have a minor algae problem I can't seem to solve??
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: dannypd on April 13, 2005, 02:55:33 PM
Quote from: IcemanMy nitrate level is pretty much zero as well. Is this why I have a minor algae problem I can't seem to solve??

Minor?  how minor is minor?
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: luvfishies on April 13, 2005, 03:15:47 PM
Quote from: IcemanMy nitrate level is pretty much zero as well. Is this why I have a minor algae problem I can't seem to solve??

Could be, as the plants need nitrate to grow, and if they don't have it, they can't use the other ferts in the water, while algae will.
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on April 13, 2005, 03:44:06 PM
i dont have algea in my tank..but..i have strange black stuff on my Wisteria leafs :S
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: dannypd on April 13, 2005, 07:28:28 PM
Quote from: NjOyRiDi dont have algea in my tank..but..i have strange black stuff on my Wisteria leafs :S

Hard water or soft water?
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on April 13, 2005, 07:40:59 PM
10dh
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: Iceman on April 14, 2005, 09:29:33 AM
Quote from: dannypd
Quote from: IcemanMy nitrate level is pretty much zero as well. Is this why I have a minor algae problem I can't seem to solve??

Minor?  how minor is minor?

Minor enough that I'm not really worried  about it overtaking the tank but annoying enough that I want it gone. I believe that it is brush algae growing mostly on driftwood and older mature plants. Of course I have the green stuff on the glass and whatnot, but that doesn't bother me. It's the brush algae that is most bothersome.
Title: nitrate in a planted tank
Post by: NjOyRiD on April 14, 2005, 04:56:57 PM
whats like the hair on the wood? it looks nice..is it algea?