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Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: Stevie on April 06, 2004, 07:39:33 PM
Well, I thought I was going to try fishless cycling but can't seem to find ammonia anywhere in the town I live.  I have called every store in Embrun Russell and Metcalfe that might have it and no luck.  If anyone has tried fishless cycling and purchased ammonia, where did you get it??
Stevie
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: dpatte on April 06, 2004, 07:57:59 PM
i found mine at home hardware.
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: Stevie on April 06, 2004, 08:37:03 PM
Thanks Dave!  I'll phone around a few tomorrow and see if I can find it in Ottawa.  There's a home hardware in Russell, but no luck there.
Stevie
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: saltydog on April 06, 2004, 09:16:22 PM
The ammonia is acting as a substitute for fish urine. Doesn't have to be fish urine, though.
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: BigDaddy on April 06, 2004, 09:19:18 PM
The product both Dave and I have used is called "Old Country".  It's a simple household ammonia cleaner.

It comes in a yellow and red bottle, and I've seen it in most of the Home Hardware stores I've been to.

I know for a fact that the Home Hardware on Bank @ Heron has it
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: dpatte on April 06, 2004, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: "saltydog"The ammonia is acting as a substitute for fish urine. Doesn't have to be fish urine, though.

i guess thats true LOL so theoretically peeing in the living room TANK for about a month should cycle your tank as well  :shock:
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: DARKPHREAK on April 06, 2004, 09:43:56 PM
Ummm YUK...

I wonder how well that would work, who wants to test it out?
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: luvfishies on April 06, 2004, 10:12:35 PM
Another one that is good is AMEX. I found mine at Canadian Tire, Walmart and Corner convenience stores.
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: Stevie on April 06, 2004, 10:33:31 PM
Somehow, I just can't picture myself doing that!
Stevie
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: Shannon on April 07, 2004, 01:59:55 PM
What is the recipe for this fishless cycle??  I have a bottle in the laundry cupboard.  Got it from Walmart in the cleaning isle.  I think Ihave read this on line somewhere.  Does it really work??
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: Marc on April 07, 2004, 02:08:22 PM
Check out the cycling article on the website's front page. There is a description of fishless cycling in there and 2 links to even more detailed articles.

Any plain ammonia will do as long as it is 100% pure ammonia. Don't use ammonia with additives such as perfumes (lemon) etc.
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: dpatte on April 07, 2004, 02:15:42 PM
Ensure that if you use ammonia, that it is only ammonia, and has no colouring or fragrances added. Those would kill the fish.

As a side issue, I just noticed yesterday that cloths i bought for cleaning my tanks have antibiotics agents added. These, in fact, would make a tank virtually useless.

Why are companies ignoring studies that say too much use of antibiotics causes new strains of diseases to occur.

Some companies have no morals it seems.
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: BigDaddy on April 07, 2004, 02:50:03 PM
You also don't want ammonia with any surfactants in it.  You'll know if you shake the bottle up, if there is a lot of surface foam that is created that doesn't dissipate quickly, there are surfactants in the product.

Surfactants=dead fish
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: Stevie on April 07, 2004, 08:48:40 PM
The Home Hardware on Bank at Heron has Old Country ammonia.  I was in there today!
Stevie
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: james on April 08, 2004, 08:21:35 AM
Hi
You may laugh, but a little bit of pee (urine) will provide the souce of ammonia to get your tank cycling. This tip was given to me my Tom Herman in Guelph (on the internet)
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: artw on April 08, 2004, 10:21:13 AM
yeah I read that too.
apparently you can also use Septic Tank starter tablets to seed your bacteria bed
Title: looking for ammonia for fishless cycling
Post by: BigDaddy on April 08, 2004, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: "Stevie"The Home Hardware on Bank at Heron has Old Country ammonia.  I was in there today!
Stevie

Didn't I just say that?

Quote from: "BigDaddy"The product both Dave and I have used is called "Old Country".  It's a simple household ammonia cleaner.

It comes in a yellow and red bottle, and I've seen it in most of the Home Hardware stores I've been to.

I know for a fact that the Home Hardware on Bank @ Heron has it

Yeah... I guess I did   :lol: