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Title: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on December 11, 2011, 03:48:28 PM
Well as mentioned i`m in the final phase of consolidating my tanks, this will result in the 20 gallon long & 15 gallon shrimp tank finding home in a 25 gallon tank, so who says 20+15 does not equal 25  ;)
Change of plans midstream- keeping the 15 gallon shrimp but replaced the 20 long with the 25 gallon starfire  :P
Thanks to Wolfiewill for picking up the tank from Aquainspiration
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: touchofsky on December 11, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
I will be prepared to be astounded once again  :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on December 11, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
The bits & pieces  :)
Tank-24X15.7X15.7 Starfire
Light- will be a Hagen Glo 2x24 watt T5 HO fixture, formely used on the 2o gallon long
Substrate - Fluval stratum formely used in the 20 gallon long since Feb 2011, will be rinsed & transfered.
Livestock - Pygmy cories 6-7, Axlerod's Rasbora blue about 20  from 20 gallon long, juvie calico Bushy nose ( picked up @ OCA)Oto Cats & CRS from 15 gallon.
Plants- Peacock moss, Anubias nana from 15 gallon, Diandra , Ludwigia Arcuata,Glossostigma elatinoides ,Riccia fluitans ,Blyxa Japonica ,cyperus helferi& lilaeopsis.
Nutrients- Pressurised CO2 injected & PPS dosing
http://sites.google.com/site/aquaticplantfertilizer/home/pps-pro
Hardscape -Redmoor wood with moss attached & Dragon stone
Pics of the lay out mock up
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: JetJumper on December 11, 2011, 06:37:18 PM
Does the styrofoam stay?  Or is that just so you don't scratch the tank?

Looking good so far!
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on December 11, 2011, 07:28:30 PM
Quote from: JetJumper on December 11, 2011, 06:37:18 PM
Does the styrofoam stay?  Or is that just so you don't scratch the tank?

Looking good so far!
Thanks , the styro is just in the event drop the rocks when moving it around.

Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on December 11, 2011, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: charlie on December 11, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
The bits & pieces  :)
Tank-24X16X20 Starfire
Light- will be a Hagen Glo 2x24 watt T5 HO fixture, formely used on the 2o gallon long
Substrate - Fluval stratum formely used in the 20 gallon long since Feb 2011, will be rinsed & transfered.
Livestock - Pygmy cories 6-7, Axel rod blue rasboras about 20  from 20 gallon long, juvie calico Bushy nose ( picked up @ OCA)Oto Cats & CRS from 15 gallon.
Plants- Peacock moss, Anubias nana from 15 gallon, Diandra , Ludwigia Arcuata,Glossostigma elatinoides ,Riccia fluitans ,Blyxa Japonica ,cyperus helferi& lilaeopsis.
Nutrients- Pressurised CO2 injected & PPS dosing
http://sites.google.com/site/aquaticplantfertilizer/home/pps-pro
Hardscape -Redmoor wood with moss attached & Dragon stone
Forgot to add
Filtration - tried the eheim proII 2026, but was too much flow, so i went with the Eheim eco comfort 2236 & still had to throttle it back a tad.
Heating- Hydor ETH 200 watt in line heater
Future install will be a Reffkeeper Lite 1 from Ray`s Aquatic supplies
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: exv152 on December 11, 2011, 09:06:23 PM
Ironic, I bought the same tank about a month ago, a fire 60x40x40cm, and have been pondering many options. But I want to get my hands on some aquasoil so the tank's just been sitting there. I also plan on putting a 2236 on the tank, so I'm really interested in seeing how yours turns out. What kind of stand are you going with?
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on December 12, 2011, 10:06:19 AM
Quote from: exv152 on December 11, 2011, 09:06:23 PM
Ironic, I bought the same tank about a month ago, a fire 65x45x45cm, and have been pondering many options. But I want to get my hands on some aquasoil so the tank's just been sitting there. I also plan on putting a 2236 on the tank, so I'm really interested in seeing how yours turns out. What kind of stand are you going with?
The stand is a Hagen pre fab stand bought used from an OVAS club member, i had to lay a piece of 1/2 inch plywood to extend the depth so it would accommodate the foot print of the tank.

The aquascpaing / planting is all complete, filled & fish transferred over, will wait a bit for the transfer of some CRS, i Will post a pic or 2 a bit later, any comments and or critique welcomed.
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: jshchrtn on December 12, 2011, 11:40:21 AM
After reading all your build threads, will be cool seeing how you consolidate those two tanks!
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on December 12, 2011, 01:48:24 PM
here are some quick snap shots of the tank in it`s for now finished state
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: TLe041 on December 12, 2011, 02:33:01 PM
Charlie,

Where did you get the Axelrod blue rasboras? Is it a local store?
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: exv152 on December 12, 2011, 02:42:52 PM
Hey Charlie, looks pretty good for a newly setup tank, I'm sure it's going to grow-in nicely. I've been also contemplating making my own amano style stand, and going with a pendant light for mine. What kind of CO2 regulator/cylinder did you go with? I can see it barely peering out from behind in one of the photos.
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on December 12, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
Quote from: TLe041 on December 12, 2011, 02:33:01 PM
Charlie,

Where did you get the Axelrod blue rasboras? Is it a local store?
First batch i got from Nature Pet Point Calire & more recently some from La Niche
Regards
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on December 12, 2011, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: exv152 on December 12, 2011, 02:42:52 PM
Hey Charlie, looks pretty good for a newly setup tank, I'm sure it's going to grow-in nicely. I've been also contemplating making my own amano style stand, and going with a pendant light for mine. What kind of CO2 regulator/cylinder did you go with? I can see it barely peering out from behind in one of the photos.
Thanks, yes should not be too long before everything takes off & grow in.
The Co2 rig is a 5 lb Aluminum bottle -Cornelius regulator with Clippard solenoid & Swagelok needle valve, the co2 is diffused with a Fluval ceramic diffuser.
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: touchofsky on December 12, 2011, 08:43:16 PM
Looks great, Errol!
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on December 15, 2011, 09:51:14 PM
Thanks, will update as the time goes by.
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 01, 2012, 10:15:32 AM
QuoteLight- will be a Hagen Glo 2x24 watt T5 HO fixture,

Plants- Peacock moss, Anubias nana , Diandra , Ludwigia Brevipes,Glossostigma elatinoides ,Riccia fluitans ,Blyxa Japonica ,cyperus helferi& lilaeopsis.
[/s]After 2 weeks & some some minor tweaks was done this weekend, namely i added a single strip of a sunbalster T5 HO 24 watt with a reflector for better light spread ( now 3 x 24watt)
and some plants has being removed - Diandra ,Blyxa Japonica & lilaeopsis
added some Rotala Macandra that was grown emersed so it`s going to take a bit to settle in & start growing in ( transition) & Rotala pussila.
Changed bulbs out  with new Gieseman midday & UVL Aquasun.

The moss is taking hold & the Creeping jenny is doing well infact i trimmed it already
I also added some Crystal Red Shrimp & Amano shrimp.
I will update  pictures later.
Regards
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: touchofsky on January 01, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
Looking forward to pictures.  How is it working out with the PPS dosing?
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 01, 2012, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: touchofsky on January 01, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
Looking forward to pictures.  How is it working out with the PPS dosing?
I find it is very lean dosing as such i have bumped the phosphate up a bit & will slowly continue doing so until i get my desired level of 2 PPM outside of that it is working great for that tank.
Regards
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 01, 2012, 06:17:36 PM
so here goes some quick snap shots of the tank, nothing fancy.
I also changed the background to black vinyl, the Blue was not cutting it since it was washing out the colour of the rasboras, let me tell you that was a job since the blue background was regular aquarium background applied with Vaseline  before the tank was put on the stand, removing the Vaseline to accept the Black vinyl in cramped quarters was a test of my new found Patience  ;D
Regards
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: fischkopp on January 01, 2012, 08:40:09 PM
I must say it was well worth the trouble, the black background work so much better and really shows of the aquascape!
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 02, 2012, 02:44:56 AM
Quote from: fischkopp on January 01, 2012, 08:40:09 PM
I must say it was well worth the trouble, the black background work so much better and really shows of the aquascape!
Thanks Robert, i concur  :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: touchofsky on January 02, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
Looks great!  Things are really filling in nicely.  Your photos are excellent, too. 
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: delslo on January 02, 2012, 04:29:09 PM
Future POTM winner coming here
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: daworldisblack on January 02, 2012, 10:59:10 PM
Looks Awesome Errol!
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: jshchrtn on January 02, 2012, 11:21:30 PM
Tank looks great man, sure hope I can scape a tank that nice sometime! Glad your on this forum!
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 03, 2012, 02:28:08 PM
Thanks  for your kind remarks guys.
Josh it`s only a matter of time for you.
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 13, 2012, 03:08:28 PM
update: The scape was not really sitting well with me & i have decided to switch things up a bit work in progress & will post update when it`s all said & done  :).
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: exv152 on January 13, 2012, 06:39:54 PM
How did you get the moss to adhere to the wood? Did you tie a bunch of it by hand, and did you use thread?
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 13, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: exv152 on January 13, 2012, 06:39:54 PM
How did you get the moss to adhere to the wood? Did you tie a bunch of it by hand, and did you use thread?
I first tried the ctazy glue method but thta did not work well for me, so my next try i did the thread method., that wood is now in my shrimp tank  :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 13, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Quote from: charlie on January 13, 2012, 03:08:28 PM
update: The scape was not really sitting well with me & i have decided to switch things up a bit work in progress & will post update when it`s all said & done  :).
well as stated , i just was not totally happy with the the scape, can`t really pinpoint what exactly , so did some tweaks including removing the drift wood with moss & adding rocks instead i will give it a dew days & see how i feel, your suggestions & comments are welcome.
I have also switched the light fixture to a Tek 4X24 T5HO fixture ( thanks Chris) , as a result of the higher intensity of the 4 bulbs I had to raise the fixture some 10 inches off the top of the tank & blank one bulb since this fixture does not allow the removal of one bulb & allow the other to work, the benefit of this fixture is a better light spread
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: bettabreeder on January 14, 2012, 10:35:45 AM
Looks incredible!
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: pm on January 14, 2012, 11:09:22 AM
IMO looks better now.  I am by no means an expert, but I find that wood (especially when covered in moss) just takes up too much space in smaller tanks.  Makes them look too cluttered.  Rocks for hardscape seem to work better.
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 14, 2012, 03:09:14 PM
Thanks Guys, Peter you have hit the nail on the head, i was just commenting last night that the Drift wood  was creating a very cramped scape, as much as i liked the look of the moss on the wood it had to go & has found residence in the shrimp tank.
Thanks & comments & suggestions always welcome.
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: fischkopp on January 17, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
Looking better than before. Less plants is good, but it's too uniform green for me. Need to add some focal points, either dark green plants or something reddish. :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 17, 2012, 12:29:28 PM
Quote from: fischkopp on January 17, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
Looking better than before. Less plants is good, but it's too uniform green for me. Need to add some focal points, either dark green plants or something reddish. :)
Thanks Robert, the reddish has already made it`s presence  ;)
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:24:57 PM
Just so that Peter don`t feel bad about constantly changing things  ;D
moved some rocks, moved & added a few plants
added a plant filter yea some more plants :P ;D joke
Oh almost forgot, i got my switched co2 stainless co2 diffuser, so far it works just about the same as the fluval diffuser which is  a fraction of the price  of the stainless one ;)
Increased co2 saturation
also switched to EI dosing , tried the PPS pro as posted earlier in the build, but found it too limiting in this tank.
The Macandra is now starting to settle in, since purchasing it in it`s emersed form.
I think that`s it
Can anyone who was @ the AI presentation see what was put into action here? This will show i`m always open to learning  :D
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: Brine on January 31, 2012, 08:36:39 PM
Quote from: charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:24:57 PM

Can anyone who was @ the AI presentation see what was put into action here? This will show i`m always open to learning  :D
Errol
I notice a few things that the AI presenters mentioned....
rocks from largest at the front to smaller at the back ...giving the illusion of more depth
focal point at 1/3 mark of the tank
but I think you are talking about the intake and output on the same, short side

either way....you do good work sir
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: touchofsky on January 31, 2012, 08:37:54 PM
Intake and outflow on the same side  :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: Brine on January 31, 2012, 08:36:39 PM
I notice a few things that the AI presenters mentioned....
rocks from largest at the front to smaller at the back ...giving the illusion of more depth
focal point at 1/3 mark of the tank
but I think you are talking about the intake and output on the same, short side

either way....you do good work sir
Go to front of the class Brian, you are a star student, all of the above was done except the 1/3 focal point which was there before.
Thanks for you kind words.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:41:12 PM
Quote from: touchofsky on January 31, 2012, 08:37:54 PM
Intake and outflow on the same side  :)
Wow you guys were really into that presentation  :),Valerie you get to sit next to Brian  ;D.
Title: Re: 25 gallon build
Post by: charlie on January 31, 2012, 09:00:21 PM
Quote from: charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:41:12 PM
Wow you guys were really into that presentation  :),Valerie you get to sit next to Brian  ;D.
I guess i should take out the consolidating  from the title, since i`m now keeping my shrimp tank that has being so good to me  ;)
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: touchofsky on January 31, 2012, 09:28:30 PM
Brian is a better student than I  ;D
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: Brine on January 31, 2012, 09:37:27 PM
i was a much better student the second time i went to highschool...at 33 yrs old
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: touchofsky on January 31, 2012, 09:41:20 PM
No hope for improvement here  ;D
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: fischkopp on January 31, 2012, 11:13:54 PM
Speaking of  focal point, I would move the macandra a bit off center.

Not sure about the glosso either, is to busy for me. Want to try some UG?
Title: Re: 25 gallon build- consolidating continues-final phase
Post by: charlie on February 01, 2012, 06:07:24 AM
Points noted Robert, thanks.
Sure i will try some UG & grow it out.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on February 14, 2012, 06:47:05 PM
One for Feb.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on February 14, 2012, 06:56:17 PM
Is that glosso growing upwards on the left side?
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on February 14, 2012, 07:10:08 PM
Quote from: exv152 on February 14, 2012, 06:56:17 PM
Is that glosso growing upwards on the left side?
No ,it`s Lysimachia nummularia/
creeping jenny
I also finshed skinng the stand .
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on February 14, 2012, 07:28:59 PM
Nice job.  You still going to paint it black??
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on February 14, 2012, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: exv152 on February 14, 2012, 07:28:59 PM
Nice job.  You still going to paint it black??
No, that`s how it stays.
Thanks.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on February 14, 2012, 07:47:42 PM
Where is the co2 diffuser? Is it in the plants??
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on February 14, 2012, 07:58:54 PM
Quote from: exv152 on February 14, 2012, 07:47:42 PM
Where is the co2 diffuser? Is it in the plants??
Yea it`s longer than yours, so it`s nestled in between the glosso.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: pm on February 14, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
Skinning the stand looks great!  I debated about doing something similar, even with the same panelling from HD, but couldn't figure out an easy way to access the storage inside the unit once skinned, so I am painting instead.  Can you still access the storage inside, or do you have to remove the full skin to do so?
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on February 15, 2012, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: pm on February 14, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
Skinning the stand looks great!  I debated about doing something similar, even with the same panelling from HD, but couldn't figure out an easy way to access the storage inside the unit once skinned, so I am painting instead.  Can you still access the storage inside, or do you have to remove the full skin to do so?
Peter, the skins are all separate ( 3 panels) held on via magnetic latches so i have full access.
I only  lightly sanded the MDF panel & applied a few coats of clear satinfinishh.
I found the finish on the MDF panels @ HD to be sub par, i guess its OK if you are painting it, but i got mine from Rona, much better finish, a buck or 2 cheaper & more designs. I will be doing all my stands with it.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: bizfromqc on February 15, 2012, 10:05:51 AM
Alright pardon my ignorance but can you guys elaborate on what "skinning the stand" is? So you basically bought some panelling, slap some magnets on it and stick it on the stand?
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on February 15, 2012, 10:16:49 AM
Quote from: bizfromqc on February 15, 2012, 10:05:51 AM
Alright pardon my ignorance but can you guys elaborate on what "skinning the stand" is? So you basically bought some panelling, slap some magnets on it and stick it on the stand?
= you basically bought some panelling, slap some magnets on it and stick it on the stand ,you can also attach it whichever way works best for you  :P, just one of them days :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: bizfromqc on February 15, 2012, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: charlie on February 15, 2012, 10:16:49 AM
= you basically bought some panelling, slap some magnets on it and stick it on the stand ,you can also attach it whichever way works best for you  :P, just one of them days :)

sounds easy enough  :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: daworldisblack on February 15, 2012, 05:51:37 PM
Wow looks good! Might be an idea for my bare stand!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Consigliere on February 16, 2012, 12:01:52 AM
Looks like you have the potential for another beaut here Errol.  Only suggestion is the vals look a bit out of place to me.  Maybe some balansae would provide a similar look but more texture?  Looks great already though.  Love the rocks over the driftwood.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on February 16, 2012, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: Consigliere on February 16, 2012, 12:01:52 AM
Looks like you have the potential for another beaut here Errol.  Only suggestion is the vals look a bit out of place to me.  Maybe some balansae would provide a similar look but more texture?  Looks great already though.  Love the rocks over the driftwood.
Thanks Dave, it`s actually C. Helferi, it`s being slowly removed from this tank.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on March 06, 2012, 01:49:59 PM
So often we read & hear of generalized comments that Crystal Red Shrimp is sensitive to Nitrates & high Co2 etc , i have no doubt that may be true for the higher grades but here is evidence it`s not across the board for all CRS.
I added a few babies a short time ago when i started the tank as an experiment, this tank was switched from the PPS pro style fertilizeing regiment to the Estimative Index regiment maintaining an approx nutrient level of about 20 PPm of Nitrates, 5ppm of phosphates, 40 ppm of co2, the babies are no longer babies & othere than a loss of 2 that i can tell, the others are doing fine & enjoying life.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: touchofsky on March 06, 2012, 01:59:47 PM
That is good to know, Errol.  I would like to add some to my CO2 tank, but was a bit hesitant.  I have the ones I got at the auction in my little 10 gallon LED tank and they seem to be doing very well.  I took the neons out and put them in the 66 gallon planted tank (where they were intended to go), and it is all shrimp in the 10 gallon now.

I have always fertilized sparingly in the LED tank, just .5 ml Flourish Comprehensive every couple of weeks, and Excel.  So far, everyone seems to be fine; lively and eating.

That is a very nice picture of the crs in your tank  :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on March 07, 2012, 09:05:34 PM
Quote from: touchofsky on March 06, 2012, 01:59:47 PM
That is good to know, Errol.  I would like to add some to my CO2 tank, but was a bit hesitant.  I have the ones I got at the auction in my little 10 gallon LED tank and they seem to be doing very well.  I took the neons out and put them in the 66 gallon planted tank (where they were intended to go), and it is all shrimp in the 10 gallon now.

I have always fertilized sparingly in the LED tank, just .5 ml Flourish Comprehensive every couple of weeks, and Excel.  So far, everyone seems to be fine; lively and eating.

That is a very nice picture of the crs in your tank  :)
Try a couple in the CO2 tank & see how they do.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on March 07, 2012, 09:08:39 PM
A view from my eye level when sitting, the Glosso was ripped up last Thurs. for the giant auction & some replanted , it has started to fill in again.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: touchofsky on March 07, 2012, 11:22:28 PM
I probably would never see them again in the jungle!  I most likely will try a few in the CO2 tank at some point, though.

I made up a batch of the Repashy Shrimp Souffle and they loved it.  Now I am cooking for shrimp  :)

Your tank looks great, Errol.  You are very disciplined.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: fischkopp on March 08, 2012, 12:36:29 AM
Glosso is alright, but I am waiting to see those UG bombs explode. That will make it a complete different tank!  ;)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on March 10, 2012, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: fischkopp on March 08, 2012, 12:36:29 AM
Glosso is alright, but I am waiting to see those UG bombs explode. That will make it a complete different tank!  ;)
I`m waiting too, but it looks like the gun powder ran out   ;D
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Jeff1192 on March 10, 2012, 08:12:06 PM
Quote from: charlie on March 10, 2012, 05:55:58 PM
I`m waiting too, but it looks like the gun powder ran out   ;D

That seems to be a tough plant to get to take off. I got some on that big Tropica group order we did a while back. It hung on for quite a while and I thought it was going to work in my tank but it eventually died out.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: touchofsky on March 10, 2012, 09:18:45 PM
Quote from: charlie on March 07, 2012, 09:05:34 PM
Try a couple in the CO2 tank & see how they do.


Following on this comment, I finally saw the 5th crs from the batch that I purchased at the Giant Auction (sold by Errol).  All shrimp are now safe and accounted for  ;D
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on April 04, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
Update for April - added some plants & have gone to the UP inline co2 atomizer much happier with it in this tank.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: bizfromqc on April 04, 2012, 01:41:27 PM
One sweet looking tank, as usual  ;)

BTW, I grabbed one of those surface skimmers like the one you have in the tank there and am loving it on the open top, keeps it crystal clear.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Lurch1 on April 04, 2012, 02:05:50 PM
Tanks looks awesome, thanks for the update!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: daworldisblack on April 04, 2012, 03:20:13 PM
Very nice Errol! Wow!!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Peekay on April 04, 2012, 03:31:38 PM
Looks fantastic.  Love how the tall grass echoes the short one... same but different. 

Sweet photography too.  ;)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Monte on April 04, 2012, 04:09:26 PM
Very nice Errol. Your plants always look so healthy, great job. ;)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on April 04, 2012, 10:07:16 PM
Very nice Errol, I like the direction you've taken the tank since its initial setup - switching to a black background, removing some stone, and changing the stand.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on April 05, 2012, 02:03:54 PM
Thank you all for the kind words, getting feed back both bad & good is how we move forward in this hobby.
Yes Eric that skimmer does a good job
@ Eric the background was always black but yes the skin /wrap on the stand made a huge difference
Thanks Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on April 05, 2012, 02:30:46 PM
Quote from: charlie on April 05, 2012, 02:03:54 PM
...the background was always black but yes the skin /wrap on the stand made a huge difference
Thanks Errol

Is the tank on the first page, with the blue background, the same tank?
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on April 05, 2012, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: exv152 on April 05, 2012, 02:30:46 PM
Is the tank on the first page, with the blue background, the same tank?
My Bad , yes it is the same tank  :), i totally forgot it had a blue b/ground since i got so use to the black, thanks for the correction.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on April 09, 2012, 05:03:05 PM
A short clip of the tank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kGOnPeb9T0&feature=relmfu
Regards
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: touchofsky on April 09, 2012, 05:42:18 PM
Beautiful!  I love the contrast of the reds and greens, and the pearling is fabulous :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on April 09, 2012, 07:03:32 PM
Very nice Errol, if you ever have extra glossostigma let me know, I'll take it off your hands for a small monetary compensation. I'm looking for something small to add to the foreground of my 25g starfire, but only need tiny bit.
;)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on April 10, 2012, 07:57:19 PM
Thanks for the generous feed back guys.Eric i can get you glosso anytime, it`s a weed, just let me know when.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Monte on April 10, 2012, 08:05:55 PM
Hey, Errol and Eric.

Where did you get those surface skimmers. I have been looking around to get one but none seem to look like yours.

Post it in the equipment forum if you like.

Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on April 10, 2012, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: Monte on April 10, 2012, 08:05:55 PM
Hey, Errol and Eric.

Where did you get those surface skimmers. I have been looking around to get one but none seem to look like yours.

Post it in the equipment forum if you like.

Thanks  ;)
Mine is a Fluval, i have seen them @ Big Als& Petsmart
http://www.bigalspets.ca/fish/plumbing-replacement-parts/surface-skimmer-1.html
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Monte on April 10, 2012, 08:58:59 PM
Thanks Errol.

I saw the fluval, it just didn't look like it in your picture.

I'm getting a bit of an oil slick. I think I will pick one up.  :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: bizfromqc on April 11, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: Monte on April 10, 2012, 08:58:59 PM
Thanks Errol.

I saw the fluval, it just didn't look like it in your picture.

I'm getting a bit of an oil slick. I think I will pick one up.  :)

I got mine at Pet Circus on Bank, mine's an AquaClear but really it's the same as the Fluval one except mine comes with an extra adapter that allows you to hook it up to a HOB filter, I just tossed it and hooked it up directly to my canister intake.

You have to tweak it a little when you first set it up to get the flow right but once dialed in, it works like magic, open top is crystal clear, no more muck.

Eric

P.S. While this is not exactly the one I use (it looks identical though), mops.ca has this one here for cheap: http://bit.ly/HL1e64
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on August 07, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
Well after 4 months of neglect due to some personal issues, i finally got around to doing some gardening & much needed water change, during this lack of TLC i cut the fert. regiment back by 60%, lights by 25% with the odd water change, here is what the tank looks like now.
Regards
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: daworldisblack on August 07, 2012, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: charlie on August 07, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
Well after 4 months of neglect due to some personal issues, i finally got around to doing some gardening & much needed water change, during this lack of TLC i cut the fert. regiment back by 60%, lights by 25% with the odd water change, here is what the tank looks like now.
Regards

Wow looks real good Errol! I really like that foreground.. Is it the UG from the auction?
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Peekay on August 08, 2012, 08:10:14 AM
I was wondering if you were ok.. seems you've been missing.
I hope everything is getting better.

The tank looks lovely!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on August 08, 2012, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: daworldisblack on August 07, 2012, 10:33:24 PM
Wow looks real good Errol! I really like that foreground.. Is it the UG from the auction?
Thanks Rah, yes it is UG
Quote from: Peekay on August 08, 2012, 08:10:14 AM
I was wondering if you were ok.. seems you've been missing.
I hope everything is getting better.

The tank looks lovely!
Thanks Brenda, i`m all good, just other stuff popped up that required a lot of my time, it`s slowly settling down to normal.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Jeff1192 on August 08, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: charlie on August 07, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
Well after 4 months of neglect due to some personal issues, i finally got around to doing some gardening & much needed water change, during this lack of TLC i cut the fert. regiment back by 60%, lights by 25% with the odd water change, here is what the tank looks like now.
Regards

I wish my "maintained" tanks looked as good as your "neglected" ones.

Very nice.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on August 09, 2012, 08:05:38 AM
Quote from: Jeff1192 on August 08, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
I wish my "maintained" tanks looked as good as your "neglected" ones.

Very nice.
Wow, thanks for the kind remarks, i think the reduction in lights etc helped save the day, i was pleasantly surprised how well the tanks held up.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on August 10, 2012, 04:43:20 PM
Errol, is that the UG you received only a few strands of via mail order? Because if so, it's really taken off like crazy, very nice growth!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on August 13, 2012, 09:55:59 AM
Quote from: exv152 on August 10, 2012, 04:43:20 PM
Errol, is that the UG you received only a few strands of via mail order? Because if so, it's really taken off like crazy, very nice growth!
Sorry for the late reply Eric.
I added some more from the DRAS auction which a few of us attended.
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on August 13, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
The tank looks awesome Errol, really like the UG and its thick growth.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build- update March 2013
Post by: charlie on March 02, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
It has been a while since i updated this build, all the plants have been changed-
the fore ground is now carpeted with -eleocharis sp. belem/Japanese hair grass - Thanks Rah
Right Back is Staurogyne sp. - Thanks Robert
Left back -Heteranthera zosterifolia/star Grass - Thanks Ken
just off center tot he right of the Heteranthera zosterifolia is -Ludwigia arcuata.
Fish - Rummy nose tetras,axlerod blue rasboras,glow light tetras, cherry shrimp, BN plecos, pygmy cories & SAE.
Regards
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Stussi613 on March 03, 2013, 02:34:15 AM
This is, without a doubt, the best layout yet.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: blueknight0303 on March 03, 2013, 11:14:21 PM
awesome tank!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: daworldisblack on March 04, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
You never fail to impress! And the HG Belem is doing well for you! Does it grow slow or fast for you since you probably have perfect conditions?
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on March 04, 2013, 11:34:10 PM
Thanks guys , i`m enjoying this tank again.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on March 05, 2013, 06:33:55 PM
Quote from: daworldisblack on March 04, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
You never fail to impress! And the HG Belem is doing well for you! Does it grow slow or fast for you since you probably have perfect conditions?
I find it to  be a medium growing rate, definitley not fast in my tank.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on November 24, 2013, 09:10:31 PM
I finally got around to stripping this tank of the Fluval stratum which served me well for almost  2.5 Yrs. & get it ready for the much Hyped ADA Amazonia soil.
This process was more than I anticipated, I removed all livestock, plants & hardware, then came the fun part of removing a ton of mud cake  ;D.
I retained some of the mud sludge to layer the bottom of the cleaned tank, after all it had accumulated to good stuff over the years, then came the new Amazoina, scaping & replanting what wanted for my new scape.
I have replanted with Ammannia ssp. 'Bonsai,Staurogyne repens ,Japanese ( Belem) hair grass

with the Dragon stone as my hard scape.
The livestock went back in5 days later after I felt assured I had no Ammonia readings - thanks to that old mud layer & the fully matured filter that was running on this tank, I wish the plants was as easy as the livestock.
I battled some algae issues for a few weeks & it appears things are finally on the up swing, hardest hit was the belem hair grass, this is now starting to re establish itself ( thankfully)
I will update as the plants  become matured & trimmed.
Regards
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2F25glnNov201300000001psLarge_zps6d7d732d.jpg&hash=c7689ca5bcc95351d4cc3c3220580cbc9c2a41b7) (http://s136.photobucket.com/user/charlie1_album/media/25glnNov201300000001psLarge_zps6d7d732d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on November 24, 2013, 11:25:00 PM
Nice job Errol, I especially like the rock placement on the right side.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on November 26, 2013, 01:03:53 PM
Thanks Eric, will have a few of you guys over soon, but not before all the plants are  Purdy  ;D
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: bettabreeder on November 27, 2013, 05:34:49 PM
Looking really good Errol!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Dxpert on November 28, 2013, 11:26:31 AM
Great work! Can't wait to see the next set of pictures.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on January 14, 2014, 08:57:14 PM
here is what it looks like approx. 6 weeks later.
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2F25glnJan201400000001Large_zpsdcf61789.jpg&hash=bff531dd39a8600d0ca63f9d52ddb9af61211338)
Regards Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: sas on January 15, 2014, 07:58:48 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on January 15, 2014, 12:55:44 PM
Very nice job Errol the rotala is looking good.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on January 15, 2014, 02:03:59 PM
Quote from: exv152 on January 15, 2014, 12:55:44 PM
Very nice job Errol the rotala is looking good.
Thanks SAS & Eric, much appreciated.
Eric the plant you referring to is not a Rotala, it does bare similar looks, it`s Ammannia ssp. 'Bonsai.
The description says it gets red, but I`m yet to see that , not worried though as I like the color it has now.
http://www.aquafloranurseries.com/plants.php?plant_id=11&sort_by=species
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: daworldisblack on January 15, 2014, 02:31:50 PM
Very nice Errol.. getting me inspired to get back up from my limbo status!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on January 16, 2014, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: daworldisblack on January 15, 2014, 02:31:50 PM
Very nice Errol.. getting me inspired to get back up from my limbo status!
Thanks Rah, if I inspire you to get going , I feel a sense of accomplishment, when can we come over to help you  ;D
Errol
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: Stussi613 on January 16, 2014, 12:06:39 PM
Just when I thought you couldn't get any better Errol...

I'd love to see these tanks in person, it's been way too long!
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: SlyAngel on January 16, 2014, 01:06:11 PM
Wow it looks very good Errol! I am very impressed!  :)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on January 16, 2014, 04:42:16 PM
Thanks guys.
@ Stu, just let me know when you are in my neck of the woods & we can have a drink of the best rum mankind can produce - Guyana`s El Dorado  :P ;D
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: bettabreeder on January 17, 2014, 04:02:32 PM
Looks amazing as always Errol!


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Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on June 01, 2014, 09:34:06 PM
Some changes.
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FJune201400000001Medium2_zpsb75e407f.jpg&hash=95b5a4ae9f7a485d3f15aa7285396326148bebe4)

(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FJune201400000002Medium_zpsb3857c03.jpg&hash=1ef8dcf3ea8dce7caa997ea64e22c2465a266bdb)
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: daworldisblack on June 02, 2014, 01:55:36 PM
Haha you're back at it eh - i like the older scape with the secondary colour in the back but I bet this will grow on me. The rocks seem a little too spaced out and I wish the main rock was a little taller but its a nice scape regardless. Very nice carpet. Just DHG and S. Repens ?
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on June 03, 2014, 01:20:59 PM
Yes Rah jus the hair grass & Belem. The Amannia ssp. was asking for too much grooming  :P , so I took it out.
I may add a few more small rocks.
Thanks
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: fischkopp on June 03, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
Nice work! I really like the grass! Will have to try it one of these days.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: exv152 on June 03, 2014, 08:19:54 PM
Nice Errol, I like the dimensions of this tank better 60x40 cm lends well to aquascaping. Also, the black background is nice too because it makes the colours in the grass and rock pop.
Title: Re: 25 gallon starfire build
Post by: charlie on June 03, 2014, 09:41:34 PM
Thanks guys.