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Title: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 12, 2012, 03:15:39 PM
This tank was started several years ago as a planted tank.  At that time, the lighting was what was available and consisted of four 40 watt T12's.  I was dosing pmdd as was in vogue at the time.  I did also dose Excel.  The tank did quite well, and I was happy with it.  Life circumstances got in the way, and my tank maintenance slipped and the plants gradually dwindled.  I was left with hardy plants such as Java fern and moss and cryptocornes.  Last summer I housed some goldfish that had been terrorized by predators in my outdoor pond, and they pretty well consumed everything but the Java fern. 

SO, I rehomed the goldfish to another tank, bought T5H0 lighting and a pressurized CO2 system from Errol (thank you, Errol!).

I decided to leave the gravel substrate, since it most likely had a good layer of mulm under the gravel.  I figured if that didn't work, I would then haul out all of the gravel and start over. 

I rescaped the tank on November 28th.  Here are a series of pictures taken on November 29th, December 31st, and January 9th.  Since January 9th, the plants have added another few inches.  The growth rate with pressurized CO2 is incredible!  So far, so good  :)

Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: Peekay on January 12, 2012, 05:29:42 PM
THAT is six weeks of growth?!  wow. 
Looks good!
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 12, 2012, 07:06:55 PM
Yes, that is 6 weeks of growth.  Since I am new to pressurized CO2, I am surprized by how much more quickly the plants are growing in this tank, compared to my non-CO2 tanks. 
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: jshchrtn on January 13, 2012, 12:49:32 AM
Great looking tank ,thanks for sharing! What inhabitants do you have in the tank right now?
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 13, 2012, 09:33:11 AM
I am just starting to stock it now.  I currently have two bristlenoses (ancistrus), 10 black phantom tetras (Hyphessobrycon megalopterus) and 4 yellow phantom tetras (Hyphessobrycon roseus).   I was going to put a pair of angelfish in it, but have changed my mind since the pair of angels in one of my other planted tanks has decided to eat the plants >:(   So, for the time being, I think I am going to stick to small tetras and perhaps a few shrimp.

Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: charlie on January 13, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
great job, progress is evident & will soon get even better, looking forward to seeing it in a few mths.
Errol
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 13, 2012, 04:34:28 PM
Thanks, all.  I found it a bit frustrating to plant the tank, since the choice of plants is fairly limited around here, however, firstly I wanted to heavily plant it, and then I would add or substract plants as I went along.

I am also dealing with very hard well water, which limits my choices a bit.  It is trial and error at this point to see what will do well.
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 21, 2012, 02:31:47 PM
On January 17, I took some pictures of the tank, since some of the plants had reached the surface and I planned to do some pruning, etc. on the weekend.  So, here is the tank as it was on January 17.  I did some minor pruning today and will take some pictures later today or tomorrow.

I also did some experimenting with different setting on the camera, and I think the pictures are turning out better.

Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: charlie on January 21, 2012, 06:42:53 PM
Great progress, i bet you are enjoying this tank , please keep us updated.
Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: 2075turner on January 21, 2012, 08:11:46 PM
Great looking tank Valerie ;D

Wish I could take nice pictures like that.

Great Job!!
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 21, 2012, 08:23:39 PM
I have been fooling around with various settings on the camera.  Now, I just have to remember what I did!
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: daworldisblack on January 21, 2012, 11:55:13 PM
Looking Good Valarie!! Great progress pics!
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: jshchrtn on January 22, 2012, 12:29:08 AM
That tank looks so good! Maybe someday when I finally get a larger tank I could get some clippings off you lol! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 22, 2012, 09:39:01 AM
I will certainly be getting to the stage soon, where I will be able to spread around cuttings  :)
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: Peekay on January 23, 2012, 09:28:01 AM
Looking amazing Valerie!

Have you added any more livestock?
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 23, 2012, 09:54:08 AM
No, I am kind of stalled on that front.  I bought some neons, and put them in quarantine and they developed ich.  So, I am in the process of treating for that.

I think what I am ultimately going to do, once the new neons are cured of ich, is transfer the neons from my 10 gallon planted tank, into the 66 gallon tank, and put the new neons in my little tank.

I am tempted to set up another quarantine tank, so that I can start quarantining a few more fish!
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: exv152 on January 23, 2012, 10:31:20 AM
Quote from: touchofsky on January 23, 2012, 09:54:08 AM
No, I am kind of stalled on that front.  I bought some neons, and put them in quarantine and they developed ich.  So, I am in the process of treating for that.

I think what I am ultimately going to do, once the new neons are cured of ich, is transfer the neons from my 10 gallon planted tank, into the 66 gallon tank, and put the new neons in my little tank.

I am tempted to set up another quarantine tank, so that I can start quarantining a few more fish!

Isn't CO2 a wonderful thing? Just add the right plants, ferts, light, gravel and CO2 and voila! One of the best methods of dealing with the free swim stage of Ich is to raise the temp 80-85 F. Look forward to seeing the 66 gal progress.
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 23, 2012, 10:36:51 AM
Yes, CO2 certainly makes things grow!  I am having fun with the tank.  I had started it years ago, probably around 2003 or so, as a planted tank.  I used DIY C02 for a while, and Excel, and had what I thought to be good growth.  However, since I started the pressurized CO2, I realize how much of a difference there is, with it and without. 

I have to add that I have upgraded the lights as well from 4 x 40 watt t12's to T5HO's.

As for the little neons, I have the temp raised and I have added salt.  They are looking much better today. 
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on January 30, 2012, 03:34:49 PM
As is often the case, life got in the way, and I didn't take pictures after my last pruning about 10 days ago.  However, I did take pictures today, since it is 2 months since the restart of this tank.  I am going to finally add some neons this evening.  
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on March 20, 2012, 05:05:29 PM
Today, it was time to do some major pruning, so I decided to take a few pictures prior to the pruning.  Once things calm down, I will post some after pictures.  I also moved a few things around. 

So, here are the before pictures.  I used some different settings and exposures, just to try out some things we talked about at the last OVAS meeting :-)

Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: Monte on March 20, 2012, 07:43:03 PM
Beautiful tank Valarie. I can't wait to see the after picture. ;D
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: Peekay on March 21, 2012, 08:12:12 AM
It has really taken off.

Looking forward to the after pics... I'm always curious how much people actually cut down.
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: exv152 on March 21, 2012, 09:31:14 AM
Very nice tank. I think the CO2 is definitely making a positive difference eh? There's no looking back now. I especially like your natural plant layout and gravel. Look forward to seeing this get updated.
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on March 21, 2012, 06:55:17 PM
I will take a picture tomorrow.  I was at the optometrist today, and by the time I got home, the lights were out  :)
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: Monte on March 21, 2012, 07:46:59 PM
Didn't want to wake up the kids after they went to bed.

I don't blame you.   ;)
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on March 22, 2012, 01:42:17 PM
It was more that I didn't want to crawl under the tank to override the timer  ;D

So, here is a picture just taken today.  The pruning done on Tuesday was:  the ludwigia on the left side cut down by half, moved one clump of hemianthus micranthemoids, moved some blyxia that was totally swamped up to where the HM was, pruned the HM still in the front so that the proserpinaca palustris (mermaid weed) would show, thinned out the hydrocoytle, and pruned and moved a few pieces of alternanthera.  Next week I will tackle the rotala rotundifolia  :)
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: exv152 on March 22, 2012, 03:34:42 PM
Is that a cryp wendtii bronze on the left front of the tank?
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on March 22, 2012, 03:46:59 PM
Most likely.  That plant has been in this tank since 2003  :), when it was first started as a planted tank.  It has gone through many challenges, not the least was when the three goldfish spent some time in the tank after being rescued from a rogue garter snake.  The goldfish kept it nibbled right down to the gravel.  When I restarted this tank as a planted tank, the little nubs that were left sprouted and it has come back quite nicely.  Now, that is a tough plant!
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: exv152 on March 23, 2012, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: touchofsky on March 22, 2012, 03:46:59 PMMost likely.  That plant has been in this tank since 2003  :), when it was first started as a planted tank.  It has gone through many challenges, not the least was when the three goldfish spent some time in the tank after being rescued from a rogue garter snake.  The goldfish kept it nibbled right down to the gravel.  When I restarted this tank as a planted tank, the little nubs that were left sprouted and it has come back quite nicely.  Now, that is a tough plant!
You're lucky, cryps are not always so hardy. I think the key to keeping healthy cryps is consistent water parameters. They don't seem to do as well when the CO2, ferts etc change the parameters drastically. I have pond snails and mts in my tank and they're constantly eating away at the crypt leaves. My compliments on the tank, you done a good job of adding a good variety of plant colours and textures to look at - makes it way more interesting.
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: charlie on March 23, 2012, 12:53:34 PM
Looking good Valerie.
I have been lucky with crypts too when i kept them . they proved to be hardy & never had the common issues with them.
Errol
Title: Re: Restart of 66 Gallon Planted Tank
Post by: touchofsky on March 23, 2012, 01:18:10 PM
Thanks, both of you  :)

I have good luck with crypts.  They must like my water, since I don't ever seem to have problems with them melting when transplanted or that kind of thing.  Even my pond snails don't bother them ... I guess I have well behaved ones  ;D

Next week I am going to do some pruning to the rotala.  I ran out of time the other day