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Title: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 14, 2012, 02:29:47 PM
Hi guys,

You may remember me from my previous thread, the 48 gallon rimless build:

http://ovas.ca/forum/index.php?topic=53103.0

Unfortunately, it never really got off the ground as the seal was starting to break down and I had to get a new tank and stand.

Well, my wife has almost finished building my stand (just need to get the doors on), and I recently picked up the 75 gallon.

My last order of business, I think, before filling it is to paint the back of the tank, so I'm looking for some input:

- What colour people go with?
- What type of paint?  I used Krylon on my last tank, but would probably prefer a non-spray alternative, as we are in an apartment
- Benefits of not painting the back

The reason I'm looking to paint is to help hide the black heater / wires / pumps running into the tank.

Thanks a lot!


Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 14, 2012, 02:31:30 PM
Sorry about the size of the photo, but here is the tank and stand:

(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2F4ac6a488-4f6e-f06a.jpg&hash=8d97a0430a42f7f9aa6ad5af1bfdaa5ee48c1a09)
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: Hookup on May 14, 2012, 02:41:55 PM
definitely a begining!

that size take is one of my fav...  the proportions are just perfect without being a monster tank...
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: DrReefer on May 14, 2012, 02:59:53 PM
Nice build !! I got a piece of black vinyl from a local graphics shop and stuck it on to the rear side of my tank !! Just spray on some watter so it wont make bubbles and flatten it out with a credit card to push the watter out the edges ! Great way to make a nice background :)

I love the black but allot of people like to have ocean blue or other kind of blue colors, I prefer black but that's my choice ;)
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 14, 2012, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: Hookup on May 14, 2012, 02:41:55 PM
definitely a begining!

that size take is one of my fav...  the proportions are just perfect without being a monster tank...

Call me crazy, but I think it looks good empty :D

I think you're bang-on about the proportions.
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 14, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
Quote from: DrReefer on May 14, 2012, 02:59:53 PM
Nice build !! I got a piece of black vinyl from a local graphics shop and stuck it on to the rear side of my tank !! Just spray on some watter so it wont make bubbles and flatten it out with a credit card to push the watter out the edges ! Great way to make a nice background :)

I love the black but allot of people like to have ocean blue or other kind of blue colors, I prefer black but that's my choice ;)

I had black on my old tank, which was good with the green plants... but most fish shops and people that post have a blue background of some sort... I figured painting it again was the easiest way to go, because I'm not sure how confident I am of doing a good enough job with vinyl or something similar :)
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: Severum on May 14, 2012, 03:37:43 PM
I've had both blue and black backgrounds and prefer black. Plus it'll match the trim of the tank.  ;)
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: bt on May 14, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
I left the back of my tank clear.  It will be covered in coralline soon enough anyways!
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: xenon on May 14, 2012, 03:45:42 PM
Get yourself some vinyl for the bg. Paint is way too messy.

Just use a spray bottle with water and a little dish soap and soak the glass before you apply the vinyl and work the water/bubbles out with a credit card.

Keep in mind that a blue bg will look different under 10K lighting than it does under 20k so choose the color accordingly. :)

What are your plans for flow, lightning, filtration?
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: DrReefer on May 14, 2012, 03:58:34 PM
Quote from: blizzack1 on May 14, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
I had black on my old tank, which was good with the green plants... but most fish shops and people that post have a blue background of some sort... I figured painting it again was the easiest way to go, because I'm not sure how confident I am of doing a good enough job with vinyl or something similar :)

Yea I was kind of scared to but hey at 15$ a piece of vinyl you cant go wrong !! Paint is messy and under the lights It can seem to be uneven depending on the paint / # of coats etc ... I have done it once on the tank and I would only use watter and no dish soap as you actually see the side that is sticky instead of the soft side like most vinyls are made to be used . Its okay to use soap on the sticky side when that surface wont be seen like a decal on a car. Sometime it will react with the sticky side and make ugly colors!
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: sas on May 14, 2012, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: blizzack1 on May 14, 2012, 03:12:36 PM
Call me crazy, but I think it looks good empty :D



:D :D Thanks for the chuckle, :)
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: Feivel on May 14, 2012, 09:16:09 PM
Just like that what is the white thing under the tank? And are you planning on using styrofoam to easy any uneveness or "shocks" from creating stress points and cracking the tank? Imo anything over 50g should have some
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: az on May 15, 2012, 10:07:43 AM
nice.
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 15, 2012, 11:36:04 AM
Quote from: xenon on May 14, 2012, 03:45:42 PM

What are your plans for flow, lightning, filtration?

Unfortunately, all my previous research was for my 48 gallon tank... so I kind of have to start over for this.

For flow, I wanted to try and get away with a single vortech pump to minimize cables/heat/noise... everything I read tells me I need two MP40s, which is just not in the budget (at least up-front).  I looked into a wavemaker, but read/heard mixed results...

For lighting, I am waiting for the Interzoo show this week, where a bunch of companies are supposed to be releasing their new LED offerings... whatever is coming out soon and will meet my needs for under $1000 is what I will get...

For filtration, I have a HOB skimmer (Octopus BH 1000), but I bought that when I had ad 46 gallon, and I'm wondering if it will be big enough now.

So, as you can see, still some work to do.  Suggestions welcome.
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 15, 2012, 11:38:08 AM
Quote from: Feivel on May 14, 2012, 09:16:09 PM
Just like that what is the white thing under the tank? And are you planning on using styrofoam to easy any uneveness or "shocks" from creating stress points and cracking the tank? Imo anything over 50g should have some

To be honest, I was pretty handsoff on the stand build... my wife followed some plans from one of the reefsites and then added some extra reinforcements.  I hadn't considered needing anything under it, unfortunately.  It is wood underneath right now - not sure how removable it is.  Is this a real issue?
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: Feivel on May 15, 2012, 02:34:16 PM
The wood is perfect just add some styrofoam between it and the tank to absorb the pin points. 1000lbs is a lot of weight.

I use a bh 1ooo on a 75 display and 30 sump. About 100gal total volume. I dont see any problems but I am looking at upgrading to a 150g in sump skimmer when budget lets me. I,should,post some pics of my custom stand for ya :-)
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 17, 2012, 11:33:03 AM
Quote from: Feivel on May 15, 2012, 02:34:16 PM
The wood is perfect just add some styrofoam between it and the tank to absorb the pin points. 1000lbs is a lot of weight.

I use a bh 1ooo on a 75 display and 30 sump. About 100gal total volume. I dont see any problems but I am looking at upgrading to a 150g in sump skimmer when budget lets me. I,should,post some pics of my custom stand for ya :-)


I assume the styrofoam can be pretty thin?
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: Feivel on May 23, 2012, 06:13:07 PM
Update?

Sorry for the late reply. I used 2" pink hard styrofoam (pink panther stuff) its what was available at a side job I was doing. Some peoe use the 1" white foam (like the stuff you pull out of a new package or box) as long as it makes an absorbtion style cushion.

Picture a pebble on a table. Put a piece of glass on top of it.    ...... Now add 1000lbs :-)
What do you think now? I realise your table is clean but metaphoricaly speaking of course lol
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: JetJumper on May 23, 2012, 06:38:51 PM
I use 1/2" styro or so.. its only meant to take out the minor imperfections..
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: Saltcreep on May 24, 2012, 02:24:29 PM
I've really downsized lately, but always liked the painted back look. I always used Tremclad brush-on. Dark Blue for me but they have lots of choices.

Good luck!
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 25, 2012, 08:37:26 AM
So, no physical updates, but I think I am going to go the vinyl route, and go with the 1/2 inch styrofoam.

Then, I will need to buy more live rock, as I only have 50 pounds right now.  Then I can cycle the new rock and maybe, at this pace, by the end of the year I can get some fish and coral :)
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on May 25, 2012, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: Saltcreep on May 24, 2012, 02:24:29 PM
I've really downsized lately, but always liked the painted back look. I always used Tremclad brush-on. Dark Blue for me but they have lots of choices.

Good luck!

Yeah, I like the painted look, too.. the brush-on might well be an option!  I didn't see any when I was at home depot that I recall, only the spray.  Is it common?
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: az on May 25, 2012, 08:56:14 AM
Quote from: blizzack1 on May 25, 2012, 08:37:26 AM
and maybe, at this pace, by the end of the year I can get some fish and coral :)


lol fingers crossed.
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: blizzack1 on September 26, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Alright! Here it is with live rock and my new light.

Two mp10s are going in sometime this week, along with a hob octopus skimmer soon. The mp10s are going on the back of the tank, as they don't have enough juice from the side, and I didn't have enough juice for two mp40s.

I am still on track to buy some fish and coral before the end of the year.

(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F12%2F09%2F27%2Fregute8u.jpg&hash=61374054750e94b7c68142cf7f15b2ef8914d672)

(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F12%2F09%2F27%2Fu3agy2u7.jpg&hash=d0ca9e858d4ed1370a7223558ae7e134c63394b0)
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: Peekay on September 26, 2012, 04:53:13 PM
Love the rock work.  Looks good!
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: Jkelley on September 27, 2012, 01:37:02 PM
Killer scape job, the pyramid looks great.
Title: Re: New 75 Gallon Reef
Post by: az on September 29, 2012, 11:26:23 PM
nice!