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Title: marineland hidden LED
Post by: tophoo on July 06, 2012, 11:34:37 AM
Has anyone heard of these? Iwonder if it will give me the shimmer affect when I use it with my t5s.

http://www.petsolutions.com/C/Aquarium-LED-Lighting/I/Hidden-LED-Lighting-System.aspx (http://www.petsolutions.com/C/Aquarium-LED-Lighting/I/Hidden-LED-Lighting-System.aspx)
Title: Re: marineland hidden LED
Post by: bizfromqc on July 06, 2012, 11:50:39 AM
Don't know if they're bright enough for the shimmer but I'd recommend paying a bit more money and getting the ML DB system.
Title: Re: marineland hidden LED
Post by: tophoo on July 06, 2012, 11:58:06 AM
It's to go with my 4x24w t5 lights
Title: Re: marineland hidden LED
Post by: blueknight0303 on July 13, 2012, 12:17:30 AM
check how much lumens they produce! i have 1 17"and its way brighter than my normal flourescent and marineland LED double lighting system. its submersible too!
Title: Re: marineland hidden LED
Post by: bizfromqc on July 13, 2012, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: blueknight0303 on July 13, 2012, 12:17:30 AM
check how much lumens they produce! i have 1 17"and its way brighter than my normal fluorescent and marineland LED double lighting system. its submersible too!

I'd like to know where you are getting your numbers. Strictly looking at lumens, the ML DB system outputs substantially more lumens than the ML Hidden LED system.

The lengths don't really match up exactly but if we look at the closest lengths:

ML Hidden LED 17" --> 300 lumens
ML DB 18" --> 450 lumens

ML Hidden LED 21" --> 350 lumens
ML DB 24" --> 600 lumens

Clearly the ML DB output is greater than the ML Hidden LED system. That being said, I think they serve different purposes. If you're looking for a submersible fixture the choice is clear. On the other hand, if you're looking for a top-of-tank fixture with a greater output, the ML DB is the way to go (but more expensive).

Eric
Title: Re: marineland hidden LED
Post by: tophoo on July 13, 2012, 08:54:14 AM
It says that it is 350 lumens. Is this good?
Title: Re: marineland hidden LED
Post by: bizfromqc on July 13, 2012, 09:16:30 AM
I think it really depends on what you want to use it for.

Technically speaking 350 lumens is not a whole lot of light when you compare it to the output of your 4x24W t5ho fixture. You'd have to check the specs on your bulbs but you'll most likely find that it's probably around 2000 lumens per 24W bulb.

I'm no lighting expert, maybe the lux/lumens/par gurus on here can chime in and enlighten (no pun intended.. ok it was intended) you.

Personally, I would think that Hidden LED system is meant to be used for esthetic purposes only and not for growing anything...

Eric
Title: Re: marineland hidden LED
Post by: tophoo on July 13, 2012, 09:50:26 AM
Yeah, I kinda want a little extra light and te shimmer effect. Still wondering if the ml hidden led will do this