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Aquarist Forums => Freshwater General Discussions => Topic started by: wrm130 on September 01, 2013, 01:07:34 PM

Title: Filterless
Post by: wrm130 on September 01, 2013, 01:07:34 PM
Anybody have any experiences running without a filter?

I'm planning on tearing down my 16g, only running it maybe 1/3-1/2 full, lots of light/plants and only a Mini Elite with the sponge removed for circulation.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: Lithops on September 01, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
I never done it, but I run my tank with only sponge.
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: Harris625 on September 09, 2013, 04:51:41 AM
The natural planted tanks are good option for non filter tank. Plants can act as a biological filter if the light and nutrients are in balance.
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: flyingpancake on September 10, 2013, 01:40:17 AM
I just have my filters and lights run a few hours at night, but keep the heaters on 24/7.  It has cut the hydro bill alot, and everything is breeding and growing.
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: Nerine on September 10, 2013, 07:49:28 PM
just make sure to stay on top of water changes! I've done it many times...and no issues as long as you keep on top those water changes :) and don't over feed
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: Shawn84 on September 10, 2013, 08:36:30 PM
I have a 10G with no filter just java moss and light. fish are breeding in it and surviving and i do 10-15% every 2 week. This is my experimental tank so i'm testing all different method of fish keep. I feed every other day.
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: Chinaman on September 11, 2013, 10:25:35 AM
Depending on your fish loading.....I had a 20G which was heavily planted, small aeration
and heat. I had a school of neon tetras with couple of cories.  These guys bred regularly.
The tank was literally self-sustained.  The thing was the environment was ideal with morning sun
keeping the plants healthy.  I maintained the water temperature at 24C.

I was living on the 7th fl of an apartment then.

Rgds,

Sam
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: wrm130 on September 11, 2013, 11:26:02 AM
Thanks all for the input!!!

For now the tank is still "settling" in.  I made a ridiculously high dirt bed in one of the corners and the tannins are ridiculous.  For the next couple weeks I will keep my canister running with Purigen in it.  After that's taken care of, just the Elite for circulation.

Temperature I can play with, any suggestions for livestock in a shallow tank?
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: Chinaman on September 18, 2013, 10:43:03 AM
Shallow and long ??? I would consider stocking with fast swimming schooling species,
such as tetras, zebras etc.

Sam
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: dpatte on September 25, 2013, 02:11:01 PM
people for years kept tanks without having power filters. The trick is to make sure your tank is well-cycled first to ensure the natural biological filter can handle the ammonia that is created by the fish, and any waste.
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: wrm130 on September 25, 2013, 10:55:01 PM
Annoyingly, even all my established tanks always test 0's for ammonia nitr-ite/ate.  And I've never vac'd the substrate.  This goes for all 11 of them.  I'm not showing off, just stating that bio-load isn't a huge concern.

I am however curious as to whether less filled tanks require more ferts, trimming, are algae prone etc.

Kindof like being forewarned so I know what to expect or what can go wrong.
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: wrm130 on September 29, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
Here's the tank so far.
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: Nerine on September 30, 2013, 08:27:56 AM
Looks nice :)
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: fischkopp on September 30, 2013, 11:04:15 AM
Interesting aquascaping. But hey, what is that a filter doing in there? ;)
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: wrm130 on September 30, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
I said it before but keen eye :)

The filter is only in for a few more weeks to control the tannins.  I made a dirt bed Maybe 8"thick and its leeching quite a bit. Soon though!
Title: Re: Filterless
Post by: wrm130 on November 08, 2013, 01:17:17 PM
Ok scrap that plan.

I've now gone the filterless route in 3 other tanks. JUst mini elites with the sponge removed or hollowed out. Shrimp seem ecstatic and the plants look great! Very interesting.