If i were to setup three 5.5gals and run these corner filters http://mops.ca/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/cshop/FSVT-8901.html?L+scstore+llbg1975ffb7fab7+1134439763
$12
And powering them with this air pump http://mops.ca/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/cshop/APAF-702C.html?L+scstore+llbg1975ffb7fab7+1134440500
$40
Total $ 58.57
Will it be sufficient?
Or will i be better of using three AC minis in terms of money cost?
Any other suggestions?
Lets say the tanks are going to be used for guppy fry so there is not a really big waste load going to be put out.
THANKS
Jim
IMHO, you'd be fine with that setup. Sponge filters are ideal for fry tanks as there is no risk of them getting sucked up.
yep that was mainly my though on the sponge filters.
Anyone know off the top of thier head how much AC minis are?
I believe they're $23.99 with all media (sponge, carbon and biomax) at Super Pet. (Discount if you are an OVAS member.)
There's other options for sponge filtration as well and pumps that wouldn't cost you nearly as much as the one you showed...
What other pump would you reccomend?
Something that's not $40, heh.
I wouldn't know what brand to recommend though, to be honest... I never use them or have had a reason to do so.
Or post an ad in the classifieds and see if you can get something used for reasonably cheap... There's a couple people who've been cleaning out their stuff as of late (aSmallFish and Nelson). So opportunities abound!
they have a pump with a filter unit at walmart for $15. If your setup is a fry tank this will be more than adequate. I use one in my 5.5 and its sufficient. the filter takes refil cartridges that come 2/$3 . i have modified my filter cartridge so i can just replace with filter floss/ammo chips/carbon.
you can pick up a a tri valve splitter thingy for cheap and pick up a couple corner filters for about $2 each and run them off the same pump. Definitely sufficient for fry..
ok thanks mettle.
I saw this one too http://mops.ca/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/skus/ap/APMA-PP0501.asp?L+scstore+ppvy8978ff76d176+1134444787
bit cheaper!
sarabella,
can all the filters off that one pump?
i think i've seen them there at Wal-mart.
yes if you buy some tubing and a splitter. I was a little skeptical at first but that little pump is pretty powerful and if you're on a tight budget i dont think you'll find cheaper. :)
And if you need filter floss you wont find it in the pet department at walmart but you can buy a big 1lb bag of polyester fiberfill in the craft/sewing dept for less than $4 and it is HUGE and works beautifully in the corner filters.... :)
Hi
I use sponge fiters in all my tanks and do not have a problem. The advanage to them over the ac filters is the hydro cost. One pump can run 3-4 tanks . You need 3-4 separate ac filters one per tank.
James
That corner filter sure is cheep! I guess you could put some sponge in it, but I think it's designed for floss. I have a Lustor Hydro sponge filter runing my 37g tall and I am quite happy with how well it has worked the N cycle. But I think the lustar is about 3x the cost. It also has a weighted bottom that I like because the thing stays put, Stuff floating around drives me nutts ;)
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Ok thanks everyone!
I'll have to make a trip to wal-mart.
i just remembered!!
Be careful when you open the pump/filter package if you get the walmart special. There is a very small flow adjustment valve thingy in there. I opened the package and mine flew out cuz i didnt know it was there... luckily i found it, it's very useful...
ok thatks very much sarahbella!
hey jim, can you post pictures after you'll be done? I'd liek to see whats gonna look like, thanx
It may be in a while but i definitely will.
thanx!
no prob.
If this does go through i will have a 55gal stand or a DIY stand with three 5.5gal on the top and two 20gal on the bottom of the stand for breeding guppies and maby other fish later on.
I'm also thinking of painting the backgrounds blue. Any good pain for doing this?
And i'll put a 4 foot light strip from home depot on top that covers all the 5.5gals and the 20gals.
Jim
If you are using flouros for the lights you'll need to consider heaters for your tanks. If you go with incandescent lights you will probably eliminate the need for heaters as they produce a lot of heat.... its just one small thing you can do to reduce the total cost of the project :)
I have incandescent fixture that came with my 5.5gal and i dont need a heater, the water is always warm. I run a flouro fixture from a 33gal over my 5gal & 10gal and need additional heat for my fry...
but what about at night when i turn off the lights and when the heat is off?
Its cold in the basement.
I forgot about heaters untill this morning and i thought i would just look arround for prices and brands.
since i run my 5.5 in my office i just keep the light on all the time. Its one 15w bulb so it doesnt cost a fortune. im not sure if it affects the fish adversely by not having a dark period but my fry are doing well. I guess this might not be an option..
So you are going to have a 4' light just on the top?? Is it a single tube or double?? I cant wait to see how it turns out. I may do something similar, i have a few 4' flouro fixtures laying around and a frame thats perfect for a few 5g tanks.
I havent choosen a piticular light strip qite yet.
Are you going to use it for breeding or just looks?
Quote from: "Jim"I havent choosen a piticular light strip qite yet.
Are you going to use it for breeding or just looks?
I have no idea what i will use it for right now, more than likely just grow out tanks for all my bettas. Im not worried how my breeding or growing out tanks look at all. I piece them together from left over and used parts. i dont care if they're ghetto, they work for what i need em for lol... I snagged a $1 heater and a $1 AC filter at the last auction and also received an empty 5gal tank for free off the freecycle and thats my latest fry tank lol... Ones in my office, no one comes in here, the other two are are in games room with my 2 20s for the time being just because i needed them and that space was convenient. Its looking a bit messy around my tank area for the time being but essentially i only want my 2 20's upstairs where they are and i want to hide my 10 and 5's away in the laundry room beside the furnace. Im hoping to get some inspiration from your setup ;) i have the stand and the lights, i just need the motivation lol.
You may have a problem with lighting the bottom tanks in your setup if you are only going to be using the one strip. The single light isn't going to penetrate that deep.... not a big deal if you dont plan to have any plants down there. If you plan to have plants in your top tanks you will definitely want to go with the double tube light fixture. You really cant go wrong. You can pick em up cheap at the home depot then wire a plug and switch onto it so its portable and you can move it to a different place. Thats what ive done with all of my 4 footers so i can set em up and tear em down when i need to...
Good to know sarahbella!
I was going to get two 4 footers for my tanks and i'm not planning on having any live plants or even fake!...maby a bit for refuge.
I also don't care what its going to look like. I'm painting the backs blue and i will not have any substrate.
The tanks will most likely be bought seccond hand.
Jim
sponges are like 2 dollars at dollarama
Quote from: "alexsodamncoolyo"sponges are like 2 dollars at dollarama
Wow, well isn't that ironic! :lol:
If you are talking about kitchen sponges, then no it wouldn't work for a filter, as they aren't porous.
Quote from: "alexsodamncoolyo"sponges are like 2 dollars at dollarama
Those are the wrong type of sponges :lol:
Can anyone recomend a cheap dependable heater for these sized tanks?
What about Elite? Aqua-Tech?
THANKS
Jim
I like the submersible ones for small tanks, and you can get the Marineland imitations at Wal Mart for around 20$.
ok great thanks mseguin.