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Title: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 05, 2015, 01:57:37 PM
I was asking Tropica North American distributor some questions about the new "Tropica" plant soil, after some discussion he graciously offered to send me 2X 3 L bags- One soil & 1 Powder.
I figured the least i can do to show appreciation , is to do a tank build thread with it, so others can judge for themselves.
I was going to try it in  a 17 gallon AKA 60P but since i could not find some more locally ( local stores need to stock it ), I decided to redo my low light Aqua Top 8.6 gallon.
More to come as i get going.........
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: exv152 on October 05, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
I noticed critter jungle had only one bag the other day.
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 05, 2015, 05:20:12 PM
Quote from: exv152 on October 05, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
I noticed critter jungle had only one bag the other day.
What Critter Jungle had was Tropica substrate, this is used as a bottom layer & capped with whatever the hobbyist likes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSRAa4By2dw
Regards
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 05, 2015, 06:46:57 PM
This is the tank that i stripped to use the Tropica soil
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FAquatop%2520with%2520Tropica%2520soil%2F20151003_190325_zpseyuxqc9h.jpg&hash=5809192abaca19c3f44f9fe55b575a697c46053a)
The  pellet size of the soil & it`s powdered version is great for small root plants, theTropica powdered soil is not a sandy grain size as with other powdered soils
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FAquatop%2520with%2520Tropica%2520soil%2F20151004_110526_zpslmnt7zab.jpg&hash=3b159593ec3ec1ff0fcd350da48913cc854bd629)
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FAquatop%2520with%2520Tropica%2520soil%2F20151005_183044_zpsjo6wgrhn.jpg&hash=7ca19487e216c265e5fcd697929aca5cbbb100c6)
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Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 05, 2015, 07:22:42 PM
Here is a list of everything i intend to start this build with
Tank -Aquatop 8.6 gallon
http://aquatop.com/high-clarity-glass-aquarium-hca-18.html
Lighting: Glo T5 High Output Ballast Kit for 2 - 24" 24 Watt with zoo med t5 HO Aqua Flora & Ocean Sun tubes & Tek Light reflectors.
Filter : Zoo Med Nano 30 canister filter
Heater : Hydor 50 watt
Hardscape: Dragon stone
Plants : Glossostigma elatinoides ,Micranthemum 'Monte Carlo' ,Echinodorus tenellus
CO2 : Pressurized via 2 stage DIY & in tank Diffuser
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FReg%2520build%2FPro%2520star%2520build%2F20151002_122829_zps8vttnk04.jpg&hash=5914ad07d71a40c180e5e65510e245022d919f74)
Fertilizer : Unsure at this time, thinking of going with Tropica Ferts.
Starting to play with the layout - fun time
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FAquatop%2520with%2520Tropica%2520soil%2F20151004_110542_zpspk69dha0.jpg&hash=85779725bb8c486ecdd1743e8596483ec169d227)
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FAquatop%2520with%2520Tropica%2520soil%2F20151004_112718_zpsq1nwjhnc.jpg&hash=805f7d6b6467a622111564ee90fb86b6ea4fd99c)
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 07, 2015, 10:03:00 AM
 have planted the tank  & flood it.
I have tested for ammonia & the soil is leaching a bit of it currently sitting @ .50 ppm before starting the filter. I`m hoping some  frequent water changes & the seeded filter will control this as the soil cycles.
I still have some tidying up & setting equipment in it`s final location and tweak things as the tank matures.
I will try & keep this thread updated as things progress.
Regards

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Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: exv152 on October 08, 2015, 09:57:06 AM
I like it. I think the smaller granules would be perfect for foreground plants with smaller roots, like HC etc. It may help root them better.

What kind of inhabitants are you planning for this setup?
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 08, 2015, 11:59:26 AM
Hi Eric, that is what i`m thinking.
The live stock will be the same that was in the tank before but may switch the norman`s lamp eye.
Norman`s lamp eye, pygmy cories, pygmy Gourami & Dario dario.
Regards
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 12, 2015, 01:55:15 PM
Happy to report that 5 days later the soil is cycled, some growth & inhabitants waiting to get back in their home.
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FAquatop%2520with%2520Tropica%2520soil%2F20151012_134603_zpskeivoz2f.jpg&hash=65606ed8905ee49b39125826e4bc2c33c81549c7)
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: sas on October 13, 2015, 08:34:14 AM
Wow, looking fantastic! Looking forward to seeing it all filled in.
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: daworldisblack on October 14, 2015, 12:21:03 AM
Great start! Can't wait for it to mature! Great new additions - nano fishes are just amazing.
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: Stussi613 on October 14, 2015, 12:35:50 PM
I think that most of us are bored of seeing you make these amazing looking tanks on a whim like it's next to no effort for you  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 14, 2015, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: Stussi613 on October 14, 2015, 12:35:50 PM
I think that most of us are bored of seeing you make these amazing looking tanks on a whim like it's next to no effort for you  ;) ;)
:P :P
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: bitterman on October 14, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
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Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil - 3 week update
Post by: charlie on October 28, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
I have tweaked to rock work & change location of diffuser , input & output pipes.
I`m still tweaking the light intensity by adjusting the height, took out the lamp eyes & replaced with Green Neons.
No dosing as yet, i`m really liking the Tropica soil so far.
Regards
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Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: missavgp on October 28, 2015, 07:43:30 PM
The tank looks really nice. Have you noticed any effect on the pH in the tank? (similar to stratum where it has a slight lowering effect)
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: TLe041 on October 29, 2015, 12:01:20 AM
Love the green neons. Where did you get them?
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on October 29, 2015, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: missavgp on October 28, 2015, 07:43:30 PM
The tank looks really nice. Have you noticed any effect on the pH in the tank? (similar to stratum where it has a slight lowering effect)
Thanks Kerri, yes it does lower the PH.
Quote from: TLe041 on October 29, 2015, 12:01:20 AM
Love the green neons. Where did you get them?
Critter Jungle
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on December 03, 2015, 01:58:47 PM
Update:
This will probably be the last update for a while on this project.
My conclusion of the Tropica soil is that it`s a very good substrate, plants respond really well with very little fertilization. The buffering capacity is a bit more aggressive than ADA especially in our already soft water .
I really like the grain size of the powdered version.
Please excuse the dirty DIY pipes, they will soon be changed out for glass pipes.
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FAquatop%2520with%2520Tropica%2520soil%2FDec%25203%2520rd_zps7hkfqrzs.jpg&hash=e737bde09ecd28d5c1c11a1bdcd8246a209e927e)
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: exv152 on December 03, 2015, 06:16:46 PM
Very nice job Charlie. What are you dosing for this setup, and how frequent?
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on December 03, 2015, 06:28:36 PM
Thanks exv152.
I originally started dosing PPS  but after a couple of weeks I cut back to 2X a week the daily recommend dose & some  weeks  once.
Regards
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: aciport on December 04, 2015, 02:08:02 PM
Quote from: charlie on December 03, 2015, 01:58:47 PM
Update:
This will probably be the last update for a while on this project.
My conclusion of the Tropica soil is that it`s a very good substrate, plants respond really well with very little fertilization. The buffering capacity is a bit more aggressive than ADA especially in our already soft water .
I really like the grain size of the powdered version.

Great updates. Just out of curiosity, what readings are you getting on the kH/gH with the soil? How soft is the water out in your neck of the woods to begin with?
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on December 08, 2015, 09:50:37 AM
Quote from: aciport on December 04, 2015, 02:08:02 PM
Great updates. Just out of curiosity, what readings are you getting on the kH/gH with the soil? How soft is the water out in your neck of the woods to begin with?
At this time i`m getting a KH of 3 & GH of 1-2 from the tap, with the soil it`s 0 Kh & 2-3 GH .
Errol
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on May 28, 2016, 10:02:52 AM
Update:
About 4 weeks ago, i decide to re do this tank, retaining the Tropica soil.
I switched the plants to 2 species from the Tropica 1 2 Grow list -Littorella uniflora  &
Marsilea crenata, upgraded the light to a ChihirosA-Series LED Light  ( Aquasense Montreal)
Live stock are Chilli Rasboras ( Big thanks to Elonore from  Montreal), the last 4 remaining Green Neons, Otto Cats,Pygmy cories.
This is the tank now after approx. a month`s growth
(https://www.ovas.ca/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi136.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq168%2Fcharlie1_album%2FMy%2520aquariums%2FAquatop%2520with%2520Tropica%2520soil%2FMay2016_zpswt4sggrq.jpg&hash=ce39670292352aeb8ca7e5a10ffd3470b836464d)
Title: Re: Tank build with Tropica soil
Post by: charlie on June 09, 2016, 12:47:49 PM
Tank pulled down to make room for another.