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Title: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 03, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
After having this tank set up since 2011 - 2017 with the same soil ( Fluval Stratum) from it`s inception and the focus of down sizing the number of tanks i will keep, the tank was totally emptied and cleaned.
My initial plan was to get rid of it and buy a 48 gallon, after cleaning and examination , the tank was still structurally sound with some minor scratches, i decided to keep it and try a new soil ( Netlea soil) and different scape, my goal was for a minimalistic simple scape.
here is the tank with Netlea soil and rock scape.
Thanks for looking
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: matttimms49 on June 03, 2017, 09:38:21 PM
Wow, this looks like its going to be epic and beautiful.

Any idea what you are going to stock it with?
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 04, 2017, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: matttimms49 on June 03, 2017, 09:38:21 PM
Wow, this looks like its going to be epic and beautiful.

Any idea what you are going to stock it with?
Thanks Mat.At the moment the plan is to have a large school of ember tetras and a pair of orange flash Apistos with a clean up crew.
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: matttimms49 on June 04, 2017, 10:29:55 AM
That sounds great. I really like the idea of a big tank with a school of smaller fish and tetras are pretty tiny right. That's going to look great!
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: Dxpert on June 04, 2017, 04:40:55 PM
Looks great so far. Tagging along to see the progress. Will you use the same lights?
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 04, 2017, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: Dxpert on June 04, 2017, 04:40:55 PM
Looks great so far. Tagging along to see the progress. Will you use the same lights?
Thanks Mike,Yea i will be using the Tex 4 X54 watts, will probably add some led stunner strips as supplementary lights.
I will be planting tomorrow and will update with pictures.
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: Jody on June 05, 2017, 12:13:37 AM
Looks great.
I look forward to seeing the updates

Jody
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: wolfiewill on June 05, 2017, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: charlie on June 04, 2017, 08:46:36 PM
.....will probably add some led stunner strips as supplementary lights.

I'm thrilled to be know you're keeping that tank, and that you'll have another work of art to see! But I've a question: What LED strip lights are you considering?
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: Selenacrowe on June 05, 2017, 11:26:10 AM
Looks amazing excited to see end result and tetras are great!
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 05, 2017, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Selenacrowe on June 05, 2017, 11:26:10 AM
Looks amazing excited to see end result and tetras are great!
Quote from: wolfiewill on June 05, 2017, 11:18:48 AM
I'm thrilled to be know you're keeping that tank, and that you'll have another work of art to see! But I've a question: What LED strip lights are you considering?
Thanks .
The led strips are the ecoxotic stunner strip lights(4), i had picked these up from another member who was shutting down his tanks for another project , turns out that project is no longer in the cards, so figured I'll play with them on this project.
On another note spent the better part of the morning planting, will update later with pictures, still some hardware tweaking to do
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 05, 2017, 03:31:55 PM
A couple of pictures , first one is after planting - Rotala Rotundifolia 1 2 grow at the back,Elatine hydropiper i had growing emersed,Rotala 'Bonsai' from previous scape.Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini' Thanks Greg,Eleocharis acicularis 'Mini' from one of my scapes, 3 x crowns Pogostemon helferi that survived a melt.

Second picture shows my 4 x54 watt T5 HO tek light with the ecoexotic stunner strips.
[Regards
Full disclosure, i stole this scape   ;)from a build i saw a while ago and always wanted to copy it
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: exv152 on June 06, 2017, 12:52:30 PM
I like the new iwagumi look Errol.
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: matttimms49 on June 06, 2017, 12:59:06 PM
Looks awesome, can I ask how many bags of soil were used?
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 06, 2017, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: matttimms49 on June 06, 2017, 12:59:06 PM
Looks awesome, can I ask how many bags of soil were used?
Thanks Eric.
Thanks Mat, i used about 3.5 9L bags of Netlea, this was achieved because i cheated on the high corners of the tank with some used substrate i had cleaned and reused.
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: Gilbotron on June 06, 2017, 05:08:42 PM
Did you put anything under the substrate (i.e. retaining walls) to keep its shape?  Do you expect the high corners to stay or will it level out over time?  Curious if that soil has better sticking power vs the pea gravel/flourite that has a tendency to level out (fast!).

Scape looks amazing.  Nice rock work - should have a great tiered effect once plants fill in.
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 06, 2017, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: Gilbotron on June 06, 2017, 05:08:42 PM
Did you put anything under the substrate (i.e. retaining walls) to keep its shape?  Do you expect the high corners to stay or will it level out over time?  Curious if that soil has better sticking power vs the pea gravel/flourite that has a tendency to level out (fast!).

Scape looks amazing.  Nice rock work - should have a great tiered effect once plants fill in.
Hi Mike , yes there is retaining walls, for this I used the black corrugated plastic board, hopefully along the strategic placement of some rocks it will help.
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 15, 2017, 11:15:34 AM
10 days in , the tanks is moving along nicely.
The new Netlea soil is cycled thanks to my seeded filters and 100% water changes daily for 1 week .
Live stock went in last night and are doing swimmingly good, plants are are taking hold and growth is on the way
Still no dosing and tweaking of CO2 is on going. Temporary filter to help cycling will be removed soon..
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on June 29, 2017, 08:33:35 AM
 Approx.2 weeks since my last up date and almost 1 month since the start of this build things are progressing nicely.
I have switched out the Rotala rotundifolia and replaced it with Rotala 'Vietnam H'ra' a new offering from Tropica 1 2 grow.
all the plants are showing signs of good healthy growth, especially the Eleocharis acicularis 'Mini' with the Elatine hydropiper spreading it`s legs at a good clip, I`m over the moon with the progress so far and hope it stays that way  ;)
Excuse the reflection in the phone snap shot
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: matttimms49 on July 27, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
This is looking amazing, really like the choice of plants. Are there any further updates now things have grown a little more?
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on July 28, 2017, 10:23:48 AM
Quote from: matttimms49 on July 27, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
This is looking amazing, really like the choice of plants. Are there any further updates now things have grown a little more?
Thanks Matt, everything is going good, the hair grass ,Elatine hydropiper, Rotala  Bonsai & Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini' has filled in nicely , in fact i just trimmed the Alternanthera reineckii 'Mini' yesterday to  shape it - now the  wait to fill back in.
The Rotala 'H'ra'  is coming along, pretty happy with the growth so far, I will snap a picture later although the  reineckii is a bit ragged from trimming.
Errol
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: matttimms49 on July 28, 2017, 11:47:38 AM
I really like the look of Alternanthera reineckii mini. Does it definitely need Co2 to grow, or would it do alright without?
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on July 29, 2017, 07:15:05 AM
Quote from: matttimms49 on July 28, 2017, 11:47:38 AM
I really like the look of Alternanthera reineckii mini. Does it definitely need Co2 to grow, or would it do alright without?
I have never tried it without CO2, that said Dennis Wong claims it can be done without CO2, but the coloration will not be as intense .
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on July 29, 2017, 07:16:34 AM
Here is an updated picture from this morning .
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: Gilbotron on August 02, 2017, 12:33:16 PM
Looks amazing!

How many Embers do you have in there? Nice sized swarm and they really stand out against the frosted back.

What plant is this?  I really like it.
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on August 02, 2017, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Gilbotron on August 02, 2017, 12:33:16 PM
Looks amazing!

How many Embers do you have in there? Nice sized swarm and they really stand out against the frosted back.

What plant is this?  I really like it.

Thanks Mike.
There should be around 110 Embers, the plant is Rotala " Bonsai"
http://tropica.com/en/plants/plantdetails/Rotala'Bonsai'(033ETC)/4451.
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on August 25, 2017, 09:21:35 AM
Almost there
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: matttimms49 on August 25, 2017, 10:27:28 AM
This is looking great, the carpets look really good. :)
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: Kalemh on August 25, 2017, 03:55:40 PM
tank looks really good i love the rotala bonsai. what did you use to on the sides of the tank is it just paint? or ?
TIA
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on August 26, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
@ Matt & Kalemh  thanks for the compliment.
I used white vinyl on the back and sides.
Regards
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: Jeff1192 on August 26, 2017, 01:47:21 PM
Looks awesome as always.  Love the white background and sides. Very different but works really well!
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on August 28, 2017, 02:50:09 PM
Thanks Jeff
Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: fischkopp on September 06, 2017, 01:03:21 AM
Looking pretty nice, looks like you go the hang of it ... :P ... seeing that really wants me to go out and fill up my CO2 bottles again.

Is this just plain hair grass?

Title: Re: Rebirth of the 79 gallon starfire
Post by: charlie on September 06, 2017, 07:05:30 PM
Hi Robert it's Eleocharis acicularis 'Mini'