Spencer Jack Uruguay Collecting Trip

[PaleoFishGirl]

Spencer Jack has asked me to let everyone who is genuinely interested in a Uruguay collecting trip know that he will have the itinerary completed this weekend and will release it later this week on a first come first serve basis.

He also mentioned that if he gets enough interest, he may stay in the country and do a second trip!

I don't have any more details at this time but will keep you posted with any further information I receive.

[beowulf]

Excellent I talked to the wife again last night and she is still open to it so I want my name to be first on the list 

[zippity]

both zippitygirl and i might be interested too, depends on money at that time.

[zapisto]

dont have all the Info .
but if wife come , did she have to come collect ?
or can she stay and please herself  around ?


thanks

[beowulf]

dont have all the Info .
but if wife come , did she have to come collect ?
or can she stay and please herself  around ?


thanks

Salut Pat, elle pourait rester avec ma femme!!!  Nous alllons collecter des poisons et eux du soleil 

[darkdep]

or can she stay and please herself  around ?

[beowulf]

Um ya lost in the translation.....

[Nerine]

I really want to go as well...dh doesn't think it's a great idea...not his idea of fun to go walking thru cow patty filled ponds...but he can sit with the other spouses who want to go but not collect we can always use people back at 'camp' making food! haha
I will go as long as I can fit it into the budget. I'm already saving

[beowulf]

Great part of bringing a spouse who does not collect is the spouse in theory should have his/her own quota to bring back.

[Nerine]

haha great thinking!!

[babblefish1960]

According to Mr. Jack, the first rule of collecting trips is "what happens on the collecting trip stays on the collecting trip"! Bringing a spouse along on a collecting trip precludes the opportunities for ever having any secrets to keep.   Not that I would ever subscribe to behaving differently abroad than I would at home.

[Mettle]

When's this all happening?

I'm supposed to be in Peru in December. 

[PaleoFishGirl]

dont have all the Info .
but if wife come , did she have to come collect ?
or can she stay and please herself  around ?

From Spencer:

"I have one couple where the wife is tagging along to have fun, another who is looking at dumping the wife in a resort to go collecting and join up with her after etc. "

Why is it always the wife that seems to be the problem?!

[beowulf]

From Spencer:

"I have one couple where the wife is tagging along to have fun, another who is looking at dumping the wife in a resort to go collecting and join up with her after etc. "

Why is it always the wife that seems to be the problem?!

Darn women!!!  All good mine actually wants to come and collect the fish and bring her share home!!

[RoxyDog]

Why is it always the wife that seems to be the problem?!

Because 99.99% of the world's fish geeks are men?   

[PaleoFishGirl]

Uruguay 2007 ~ Preliminary Itinerary

1 DAY;
Arrive - lunch, talk about the plan, maps, yet more food, spend the night in Salinas

2 DAY;
After breakfast we travel to "Paso Pache" in the Rio Santa Lucia, region of Canelones. Paso Pache is 95 kilometers from Salinas, a very nice place and a lot of fishes. Back home to Salinas

3 DAY;
Around 07.00 AM to "33" (central-east Uruguay). From Salinas to "33" we have 250 kilometers, we stay in "33" and there we have 2 places for collecting: "Laguna de Arnaud" (lake) and the Rio Olimar Grande. When we finish with all the collecting, around 18.00PM we drive to "Charqueada"; 65 kilometers from "33".

4 DAY;
From Charqueada we drive to "Valentines", along the way (120 kilometers) we will stop do some collecting at "Arroyo Del Tigre". After collecting here we will continue to Valentines (50 kilometers) and stay in an "Estancia" (like a ranch).

5 DAY;
Collect around the ranch (horses?) at Arroyo Las Pavas and Arroyo Averias. That night we will stay at the ranch.  The ranch is very old; from 1870, but the food is VERY good, nice places to collect, wonderful landscape, big rooms (2 rooms for 4 people each). They don't have any electricity at the ranch, but they use sun/wind +batteries.

6 DAY;
After lunch, around 13.00PM we drive back to Salinas 230 kilometers, we will arrive around 17.00 PM.

7 DAY;
We drive to "Rocha" (east Uruguay at the Atlantic sea) 235 kilometers. We will rent a big truck and drive 25 minutes to the sealion colony in "Cabo Polonio".  The colony of the sealions here are the most important population in South America.  After the sealions we will drive 85 kilometers to the town of "Velazquez", also in the region of Rocha. We will spend the night in Velazquez
           
8 DAY;
We will collect in the "Arroyo de la India Muerta", Velazquez and then  drive back home, 245 kilometers and drive back to Salinas later in that day.

9 DAY;
A day trip into the Capital city Montevideo

10 DAY;
Pack the fishes and prepare for their inspection and departure.


A sample of the species that we will collect;

Gymno. gymnogenys "Santiago" (Velazquez)
Gymno. gymnogenys "Maldonado" (Maldonado)
Gymno. gymnogenys "Olimar" (33)
Gymno. cf. gymnogenys "El Tigre" (Valentines)
Gymno cf. gymnogenys "Paso Pache" (Canelones)

Gymno. labiatus "3 Puentes" (33)
Gymno. labiatus "Averias" (Valentines)
Gymno. labiatus "Sureño" (Maldonado"

Gymno. rhabdotus "Santiago" (Velazquez)

Gymno.n.sp. "Blue Neon" (Valentines)

Geophagus sp.cf. brasiliensis "Laguna de Arnaud" (33)

Australoheros scitulum "Paso Pache" (Canelones)
Australoheros n.sp."Local" (Valentines)

Crenicichla cf.lepidota "India Muerta" (Velazquez)
Crenicichla punctata "Blue 33" (33)
Crenicichla cf.punctata "Paso Santiago" (Velazquez)
Crenicichla scottii "Santa Lucia" (Paso Pache-Canelones)

and a lot of tetras, loricaridaes, etc,etc,etc


The price depends on how many people are on the trip.  Price breakdown is as follows.  Airfare to Montevideo is above this price. (flight connects through Miami I will be working on group deals)
For US and Canadian Citizens there are no Visa requirements. Only recommended shots are your standard inoculations for Canada / US plus Hepatitis A & B 

7 people =    1,450USD
8 people =     1,350 USD
9 people =     1,250 USD
10 people =   1,150 USD

Price includes;
-   All food
-   All lodging
-   All guiding
-   All permits to collect on private land
-   All transportation and vehicle rentals within the country
-   Export and sanitary permits for the fishes.

* More details to follow

[babblefish1960]

I'm afraid that this wasn't the collecting trip that Mr. Jack was showing us pictures of, you see, nowhere in there is there any mention of the places where he had taken pictures of new friends they had made in quiet places.

[beowulf]

Looks amazing!!

[Nerine]

holy smoke
that's totally affordable!!!!!
crossing fingers

[beowulf]

holy smoke
that's totally affordable!!!!!
crossing fingers

The way I understand this is that the plane is on top of that amount.  Can someone maybe clear this up?