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Got a new moorish idol

Started by Dakotamay, May 19, 2012, 07:21:46 AM

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az

I know few people with moorish idols, often it could be eating and fat today but very much dead tomorrow, dont think they are 100% reef safe though.
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Dakotamay

Quote from: az on May 21, 2012, 11:20:40 PM
I know few people with moorish idols, often it could be eating and fat today but very much dead tomorrow, dont think they are 100% reef safe though.

I do know that you are never really out of the woods with these fish. They tend to die mysteriously.  I've read some people say if you can keep it 2 years you're out of the woods. Really though with any fish you're never out of the woods they can die at any time for any given number of reasons.

We however, are willing to give this beautiful fish a try and see if we can't provide him what he needs to thrive in our system.

I also know they are not considered to be really reef safe. So far he doesn't nip anything in the tank except the sponge he's allowed. We'll see  how he does.


Hookup : Yes they are beautiful to watch. Hopefully my experiences listed here will be helpful in your journey when you do get yours.

shaheed

Never realized how beautiful this fish is...!  Best of luck, will be following to learn something!

Amy

I've been checking this post for some days, I got a moorish idol too, though mine is more picky then yours unfortunately..
He nips at sponges, feeds on Nori no problem and some really small pieces of brine/mysis. I tried really small chopped pieces of squid but he didnt go for them.
I'll try the oysters and see how he likes it!

Thanks for the post, it gives me a lot of ideas for him

Here's some pics of mine:




Dakotamay

Quote from: Amy on May 22, 2012, 08:45:59 PM
I've been checking this post for some days, I got a moorish idol too, though mine is more picky then yours unfortunately..
He nips at sponges, feeds on Nori no problem and some really small pieces of brine/mysis. I tried really small chopped pieces of squid but he didnt go for them.
I'll try the oysters and see how he likes it!

Thanks for the post, it gives me a lot of ideas for him

Here's some pics of mine:






Hey Amy,

Yes they can be picky. In my research (I should of bookmarked it) I found a fellow that dove with these fish on many occasions to study their living and eating habits. What he mentioned was that he thinks the ones that come into the trade that are very picky eaters are females. His reason for saying this was that he observed on the reef that the idols were always in pairs. One would travel ahead of the other and feed on some sponge. When the one following behind arrived the one would go ahead and find another sponge. They repeated this process the entire day. He thought after seeing this. The male might be the one to go ahead and scout for food while the female follows along and eats what he shows her. It could of course be backwards and it's the female going ahead and male following. Just his theory. However, his point was that the picky eaters might be the sex that would be the follower. Thus when they are alone in the home aquarium they don't know what to do to go find the food as they were the follower always shown where the food was.

I have no idea if he's right or not. I'm just referring to his thoughts regarding the picky eaters.

Don't get discouraged. Keep feeding and a lot. I now feed the tank 4-5 times a day small amounts. I was Maury very carefully to make sure that he does in fact take in some food.  Also try new era grazer in the same clip that he is eating the nori from. He or she might take to that.

I use the cheese grater to get the oyster shredded up small enough. I use the smallest holes on the grater. I have to get some uncooked shrimp to try. I ran out and haven't picked any up with having the oysters here.

Good luck. Start a thread about yours too. This way we'll have two people sharing their experiences. I'd say share here. But it might get confusing as to which fish is being referred too lol.

Good luck.

One last thing. Just because he didn't eat the squid the first time. Try a few more days in a row. Maury didn't eat the oyster meat at first either. Then he just started to devour it. I'm not kidding when I say it has to be tiny too. Shred it up really fine. He may take it then. Maury will inspect the piece before deciding to take it. If it's too large he passes it by.

Amy

Very interesting, thanks for the info!
I have a raw seafood mix bag for my tessalata eel, I'll try shredding up everything in little bowl for him/her.
The squid is just impossible on the chesse grater haha... I only got some mucusy stuff out of it :P

I also need to move the bristletooth tang to another tank, I'm sure it will help a lot, he's a fast swimmer. The rest of the fish are a mandarin goby, flame angel and small green wrasse.

I really hope it can work, maybe the trick with them is just diversity in food and frequent feedings, who knows.

I would also consider buying a second one that his already eating if it can help him/her eat more.

I'll start a new thread with my experiences if they are succesful! Thanks

Dakotamay

I don't think your bristletooth is a bother. I have a vampire tang and a blue tang in here too. Also some anthias and a wrasse. Very fast swimmers. Very competitive for the food. I try to get them all eating first and then concentrate on dropping some near Maury. This seems to work as the other pigs are busy lol.

I didn't think to ask how long have you had yours now?  We're on day 5.

Amy

Same as you. I'll try feeding it right now and see how it goes.

Dakotamay

I didn't get a chance to make the day 4 update last evening.  Not much different to report. Maury ate the same if not a little better than the days before. He finished off his white sponge on the rock in the pic above and now has a rock with orange sponge that he is eating as well. Thankfully he's not picky on sponges lol. Seems to be happy with any sponge.
Another interesting thing that seems to be happening is a bond between Maury and Dory (blue tang) They seem to be sticking together and the blue tang seems to be the monkey see monkey do of the pair. She now grazes the sponge rock as well. Odd couple? I guess so. But if it makes Maury more comfortable then hey, that works. Maybe that will provide the companionship portion of his needs that would of been fulfilled if we had 2. Which I would of bought a pair had there been 2.  Jim had ordered 2 but only received 1.

Dakotamay

Quote from: Amy on May 23, 2012, 10:16:09 AM
Same as you. I'll try feeding it right now and see how it goes.

Maury has already eaten finely chopped oyster for this morning. At lights on at noon I will be putting in pellets. Along with a new era grazer disc and an algae sheet.  Later this evening before lights out he'll get mysis and marine cuisine frozen food.

I used to feed meat every other day. Now twice a day.

Amy

he likes the seafood medley! I gave him a mix of squid, mussels, octopus and shrimp and he took the smallest pieces.
He didnt eat agressively, but he ate well. I have the Seaquest brand.
What's fun with this bag is that everything is easy to grate and in small pieces.
I'm gonna retry the new era discs, it didnt touch the first one, it was there for 2 days.

Dakotamay

Quote from: Amy on May 23, 2012, 10:28:29 AM
he likes the seafood medley! I gave him a mix of squid, mussels, octopus and shrimp and he took the smallest pieces.
He didnt eat agressively, but he ate well. I have the Seaquest brand.
What's fun with this bag is that everything is easy to grate and in small pieces.
I'm gonna retry the new era discs, it didnt touch the first one, it was there for 2 days.

Woo hooo! Awsome! I'm thrilled he ate the seafood medley for you. If you can get some cheap sponge for him to eat I'd do that. We just got home not long ago with sponge for Maury and he's already eating it. We've trained him to go to one spot in the tank for his sponge. Hopefully this will teach him too that what is placed there and only there is for him to eat not other corals lol. A person can try can't they? lmao.

Amy

:P  I have a huge red sponge, but he hasn't touched it yet... I don't know if he can reach it or not, so I'll try to place it in the middle of the tank. He nips at stuff on the rocks but I still see so many sponges and corals intact ( I only have a few softies and GSP left in this tank)  I do have a lot of copepods in this tank, you can see them swimming everywhere, maybe he's eating those guys...
He sure loves his seaweed though, every time a chunk goes by, he swims super fast to catch it!

I'm happy to see they are not so hard to start feeding, I had so much more trouble with my copperband butterfly.

Dakotamay

I'd try putting the sponge in a spot where he hangs out. Our Maury hangs out in the spot where we have the sponge. We've now got a chili sponge in place and I've seen him pick a  little at it but not like he did the other sponge. Maybe he doesn't like chili? lmao. He is eating everything else going into the tank now so maybe he just isn't hungry for sponge. Time will tell.

A neat little aside. My little baby cow fish in the pic on the first page of this thread ate out of my hand tonight. Was so cute to watch him suck in the blood worms. They're his absolute favorite. He won't eat anything but blood worms and oyster.

Dakotamay

The weekend was crazy busy and haven't had a chance to be on the computer too much.

Here's some update on Maury. Really there isn't much to say.  He doesn't like the chili sponge. I guess it may be too hard for him. Not sure.  He eats anything I put in the tank.
New Era Mini Grazer is a favorite as is the algae sheets. He makes sure he gets his fair share of those. Pushes his way right in there with the blue tang, vampire tang and lawnmower blenny.
He's even done well with stress as we had to tear our entire tank apart to get out a fish that we were told was reef safe and wasn't. It was a leopard blenny. Only eats SPS coral polyps. He rather liked the few chunks he got out of my chalice. It is doing fine though and healing quickly.

Dakotamay

Another update and some pics.  Maury is doing really well. He eats mysis, new era grazer, algae sheets, NLS pellets and whatever meat I put in for the day on a new era grazer clip. Can be seen in the pics below. There isn't really much more to say. He holds his own in the tank. Makes sure that he gets his share of the food.

Here's the pics.







As can be seen in the last two pics. He's no longer camera shy lol. Coming right to the side and posing. What a fish.

Cheebs

Yours also looks amazing, great job!! One day when I upgrade one of these is on the top of my list!

Dakotamay

Thanks Phil. He still doing awesome. His streamer has grown back again. It is now close to half an inch in length.  He eats like a pig for me. I don't think I have to worry about not meeting nutritional needs of this fish. He eats his sponge in the tank. He also eats New Era mini grazer discs, algae sheets, frozen mysis, frozen blood worms and cyclop-eeze. Out of all of that he surely should be getting what he needs.

Hookup

these fish are sofa king awesome...  i can hardly wait..

summer is just boooo.